{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 68a/1907-05-24/p017","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Another example: in spiritual science, we follow the human being in his development far, much further back than to the point in time we have just discussed. Since I have often spoken about the idea of development here, I hope I will not be misunderstood today. Spiritual science traces the human being far, far back, and when it traces the human being back, it always comes across such human beings through long, long periods of time, where the physical body of the human being is the expression of the soul living in the physical body of the human being. But then, going further and further back, we come to a point in human development when this is no longer the case, when we can see how, so to speak, the paths of physical development and of soul-spiritual development separate further backwards. The spirit and the soul of man are rooted in the spiritual world, and when I use the expression of descending from the spiritual world, those who have already penetrated deeper into theosophy know that this expression is only figurative, an expression for something spiritual in a language that is only suitable for the external material. We are coming to times in the development of humanity when we see how the human soul and spirit is still united with other spiritual and soul-like entities. Out of spiritual entities, man's soul and spirit are born. There is a point in our earthly development when these human soul and spirit have only just entered this physical body, but we must not believe that this physical body, as it has taken in the soul and spirit, has not also undergone a long, long development.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"32. The Bible and Wisdom II","site_heading":null,"date":"1907-05-24","location":null,"word_count":282,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/68a/1907-05-24/p017","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Essence of Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA068a/English/SOL2024/19070524p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Dann aber kommen wir, wenn wir weiter und immer weiter zurückgehen, zu einem Zeitpunkt der Menschheitsentwicklung, wo das nicht mehr so ist, wo wir sehen können wie sozusagen sich die Wege der physischen Entwicklung und der seelisch-geistigen Entwicklung weiter nach rückwärts trennen. Der Geist und die Seele des Menschen wurzeln in der Geisteswelt, und wenn ich den Ausdruck gebrauche vom Heruntersteigen aus der geistigen Welt, so wissen diejenigen, die schon tiefer in die Theosophie eingedrungen sind, dass dieser Ausdruck ja nur bildlich ist, ein Ausdruck für etwas Geistiges in einer Sprache, die nur für das äußere Materielle geeignet ist. Wir kommen zu Zeiten in der Menschheitsentwicklung, wo wir sehen, wie des Menschen Seele und Geist noch vereinigt ist mit andern Wesenheiten geistig-seelischer Art. Aus geistigen Wesenheiten heraus ist des Menschen Seele und Geist herausgeboren. Es gibt einen Zeitpunkt in unserer Erdenentwicklung, wo diese Menschenseele und -geist erst eingezogen sind in diesen physischen Leib, aber wir dürfen nicht glauben, dass dieser physische Leib, wie er die Seele und den Geist aufgenommen hat, auch eine lange, lange Entwicklung nicht hinter sich gehabt hätte.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":276,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/68a/1907-05-24/p017"}],"english":["GA 68a/1907-05-24/p017"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":276,"en_words":282,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7525,"original_word_count":7243,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Essence of Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA068a/English/SOL2024/19070524p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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