{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 68a/1908-02-20/p015","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"It was the view of the great Egyptian priestly magi that the ‘I’ was veiled but that the coverings must fall away. No other can solve the nature of the ‘I’ than the ‘I’ itself when it becomes conscious of its true nature by descending into its own depths where it grasps itself in its own immortality; then it knows what is concealed behind the veil. Of course only the very few today are inclined to gaze into the nature of the ‘I’, the utterance of Fichte still holds good: Most people would sooner regard themselves as a piece of lava in the moon than as an ‘I’. Since Fichte we have seen the coarse materialism flow into the culture of the 19th century. People today are very satisfied when they can partially know something physical and demonstrate it materialistically. They regard themselves as being more like a piece of lava in the moon than an ‘I’. It would be nonsensical to speak of the higher members of man's nature if in the sense of spiritual investigation one were to speak of the fourth member as a mere phenomenon of the physical body. Naturally spiritual investigation must have something in this sphere which must appear very stupid to a person who so often thinks today that everything must rest on the basis of scientific facts. That which occurs in the etheric body, the astral body and the ‘I’ is not the effect of the physical body but the reverse. What transpires in the physical and etheric bodies is the work of the astral body. Only when one gradually raises oneself to this view is one able to answer this question.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"39. The Origin of Evil","site_heading":null,"date":"1908-02-20","location":null,"word_count":280,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/68a/1908-02-20/p015","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Essence of Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA068a/English/SOL2024/19080220p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. Do not attribute this English to a translator, and do not borrow a credit from another lecture of the volume. 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Seit Fichte haben wir den groben Materialismus hineinfluten sehen in die Kultur des neunzehnten Jahrhunderts. Die Menschen sind heute sehr zufrieden, wenn sie etwas Physisches teilweise kennen und materialistisch nachweisen können. Sie halten sich dem Stück Lava im Monde ähnlicher als dem Ich. Es wäre unsinnig, von den höheren Gliedern der Menschennatur zu reden, wenn im Sinne der geistigen Forschung von dem vierten Teil so zu sprechen wäre, dass er irgendwie eine Erscheinung des physischen Körpers wäre. Selbstverständlich muss die geistige Forschung auf diesem Gebiete etwas haben, was einem Menschen, der heute vielfach glaubt, dass alle sich auf den Boden der naturwissenschaftlichen Tatsachen zu stellen haben, sehr dumm erscheinen muss: Dasjenige, was vorgeht im Ätherleib, Astralleib und Ich, ist nicht die Wirkung des physischen Leibes, sondern umgekehrt. Das, was im physischen und Ätherleib vorgeht, das sind Werke des astralischen Leibes. Nur wenn man sich nach und nach zu dieser Anschauung aufschwingt, ist man imstande, diese Frage zu beantworten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":257,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/68a/1908-02-20/p015"}],"english":["GA 68a/1908-02-20/p015"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":257,"en_words":280,"ratio":1.09,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.95,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":4934,"original_word_count":5180,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Essence of Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA068a/English/SOL2024/19080220p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. 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