{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 68b/1907-10-31/p016","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"What interests us about this strange speech by the free man, however, is the reference to the Great Spirit, whom he suspected everywhere. In the rustling of the trees, [in the trickling of the springs], even in thunder and lightning, [in all natural phenomena] the [divine] great spirit spoke to him. What is remarkable about this “savage” population is [this monotheistic religion], this remoteness from all superstition in their fundamental religious belief, which shines through the many superstitions that were present. You really don't need to go very far with your logic before you can see that those who were conquered by the Europeans, from whom the Europeans do not descend, but both [the European and the American population] descend from a common people, who must have had a wonderful natural religion. That will be a hypothesis if one stands on the standpoint of the sense-physical facts; that is a certainty if one [researches spiritually with the methods that we will talk about in the next lectures, especially in the second-next one, which is about initiation]. The American population, which had declined in certain respects, had lost its original purity and developed in another direction [towards a lower level]; the European, from his point of view, developed in the opposite direction. This gives us a concept of development that shows us very, very different perspectives than the simple concept of development that people are so keen to present to us as the only possible one. We see how this development is not at all simple, how we must assume earlier states of existence from which today's emerged, how that which today lives as imperfect in the imperfect appears to be a branch-off that develops towards imperfection. If we could go back in time to the distant past, we would find peoples who are the ancestors of the European [population] as well as those of the conquered American Indians. The path of development went so that a straight development [direction] led to the present-day developed population. But those who did not keep up, who did not absorb what could have led to perfection, came to a decline. The others are not descended from them, but descended from a common ancestor, others have progressed. [They are not merely /uncertain reading] lagging behind on a different point of view, but] because they lagged behind, they now show a state that was never present in ancient times. Because [they were] unable to develop further, [they] regressed.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"32. 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Im Rauschen der Bäume, [im Rieseln der Quellen], selbst in Donner und Blitz, [in allen Naturerscheinungen] sprach zu ihm [der göttliche], der große Geist. Merkwürdig an dieser «wilden» Bevölkerung: [diese monotheistische Religion], dieses Fernsein alles Aberglaubens in ihrer durch gewiss mancherlei Aberglauben, der vorhanden war, durchleuchtenden Grundüberzeugung in religiösem Sinn. Man braucht wahrhaftig nicht sonderlich weit zu gehen mit seiner Logik, dann wird man einsehen können, dass von denen, die überwunden worden sind durch die Europäer, von denen stammen allerdings nicht die Europäer ab, aber beide, [die europäische wie diese amerikanische Bevölkerung], stammen ab von einem gemeinsamen Volke, welches sicher eine wunderbare Naturreligion gehabt haben muss. Das wird eine Hypothese sein, wenn man auf dem Standpunkt der sinnesphysischen Tatsachen [steht]; das ist eine Gewissheit, wenn man [geisteswissenschaftlich mit denjenigen Methoden forscht, worüber wir in den nächsten Vorträgen sprechen werden, namentlich im zweitnächsten, der über Einweihung handelt]. Die amerikanische Bevölkerung, sie war zurückgegangen in gewisser Beziehung, hatte die rein ursprüngliche Vorstellung verloren und nach anderer Seite [zu einem niedrigen] sich hinentwickelt; der Europäer von seinem Standpunkte sich hin[auf Jentwickelt. Da geht uns der Begriff von einer Entwicklung auf, wie er uns ganz, ganz andere [Aus-] Sichten zeigt als jener einfache Begriff der Entwicklung, den man uns so gerne hinstellen möchte als den einzig Möglichen. Wir sehen, wie diese Entwicklung ganz und gar nicht einfach ist, [wie wir] voraussetzen [müssen] frühere Zustände des Daseins, aus denen das Heutige [her] vorgegangen ist; [wie dasjenige, was heute als Unvollkommenes im Unvollkommenen lebt], sich ausnimmt wie ein Abgezweigtes, das nach der Unvollkommenheit hin sich entwickelt. Wenn wir zurückgehen könnten in Zeiten urferner Vergangenheit, würden wir Völker finden, die die Ahnherren sind der europäischen [Bevölkerung] wie auch jener überwundenen amerikanischen Indianer. Der Weg der Entwicklung ging so, dass eine gerade Entwicklung [Richtung] hinführte zu der heutigen ausgebildeten Bevölkerung. Die[jenige] aber, [die] nicht mitkam, nicht aufnahm, was hätte führen können zur Vollkommenheit, kam zu einem Niedergange. Nicht von ihnen stammen die anderen ab, sondern sie [stammen] von einem gemeinsamen Vorfahren ab, andere sind hinweggeschritten. 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