{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 68b/1907-10-31/p055","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"But man [as a spiritual being], as an astral being, precedes all living beings. He is the firstborn as a spiritual being. [The other beings, the imperfect beings, descend] from him [as a spiritual being], who [from the very beginning] has all the potential for the highest perfection [within himself]. So man was there as a spiritual being before he was there as a physical [being]. [So where do we come from? From the world that man does not see]; man does not see the world in which the astral, etheric bodies are at home. In there is the world from which man really comes. Therefore, what is the highest link in man originally comes from him in a mysterious way, [the astral body, the etheric body and] as the last link, the physical body. Man descends from the Divine-Spiritual, [from the spiritual man descends. Only] then do we consider the appearance and descent of man in the right light, when [we] truly [elevate ourselves to spiritual-scientific contemplation. These spiritual-scientific insights can be explained in detail in the course of winter. What now appears as a program will become clear in its details. That will become clear... The physical is born out of the spiritual. The spiritual is something that permeates everything. This has always been felt above all by those who, through their good disposition and insight, had no materialistic mind and no materialistic habits of thought. From the laws that permeate and resound through the whole world as spiritual, from such laws, man appears to spiritual researchers as originating. Thus spiritual research is based on no other point of view than Goethe's, which we have recognized as a genuine spiritual researcher and which he has expressed in the most diverse forms, including in that wonderful series of poems entitled “God and the World” [is entitled], in which there is a beautiful poem, ‘Orphic Primal Words’, of which today we are particularly interested in the first stanza, because it shows us how Goethe was aware of the facts we have been talking about today. He wants to show us how that which is spiritual in man, which comes from higher laws [than from physical laws, which are explained by external sensory facts], cannot be fragmented by the powers of the temporal, cannot be fragmented by the forces of the sensual. [This is what he wants to express when he] connects an ancient, sacred idea to [his own dismemberment]: I and spiritual people are not bound to the physical laws of the body, which they themselves have produced, built, transformed, they are eternal and unchanging in their essence, in that they transform and remodel that which they themselves [as the ego and astral body] have produced.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"32. 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Von ihm [als Geistwesen] stammen [die anderen Wesenheiten], die unvollkommenen Wesen ab, von ihm, der [von Anfang an] alle Anlagen zur höchsten Vollkommenheit [in sich hat]. So war Mensch da als geistiges Wesen, bevor er als physisches [Wesen] da war. [Woher stammen wir also? Aus der Welt, die der Mensch gar nicht sieht]; der Mensch sieht nicht die Welt, in der die astralischen, ätherischen Körper heimisch sind. Da drinnen ist die Welt, aus der der Mensch wirklich abstammt. Daher stammt ursprünglich das, was höchstes Glied des Menschen ist, auf geheimvolle Art, [aus ihm heraus der astralische Leib, der ätherische und] als letztes Glied der physische Leib. Vom Göttlich-Geistigen stammt der Mensch ab, [vom Geistigen stammt der Mensch. Nur] dann betrachten wir das Erscheinen und Abstammung des Menschen im ganz richtigen Lichte, wenn [wir uns] wirklich [zu geistig-wissenschaftlicher Betrachtung erheben. Diese geisteswissenschaftlichen Blicke können im Lauf des Winters in Einzelheiten erläutert werden. Was nun als Programm erscheint, wird in seinen Einzelheiten klar werden. Das wird sich zeigen ...] Das Physische ist aus dem Geistigen heraus geboren. Das Geistige ist etwas, was alles durchdringt, das haben [vor allen Dingen] immer die[jenigen] empfunden, dass der Mensch aus dem Geistigen heraus stammt, die durch ihre gute Anlagen und Erkenntnis keinen materialistischen Sinn [und keine materialistischen Denkgewohnheiten] hatten. Von [den] Gesetzen, die als geistige die ganze Welt durchdringen und durchklingen, von solchen Gesetzen heraus erscheint der Mensch den Geistesforschern stammend. Damit ist Geistesforschung auf keinem anderen Gesichtspunkte stehend, als auf dem[jenigen] Goethes, [den wir als echten Geistesforscher erkannt haben, und den er] in den verschiedensten Formen zum Ausdruck gebracht hat, [unter anderem in jener wunderbaren Gedichtreihe, die mit] «Gott und Welt» [überschrieben ist], in der ein schönes Gedicht ist, «Orphische Urworte», von dem uns heute insbesondere aber die erste Strophe interessiert, weil sie uns zeigt, wie sich Goethe bewusst war der Tatsachen, von denen wir heute gesprochen haben. Er will [in seiner ersten Strophe uns] zeigen, wie das, was im Menschen geistig ist, was von höheren Gesetzen abstammt [als von physischen Gesetzen, die durch äußerliche Sinnestatsachen erklärt werden], auch nicht zerstückelt werden kann durch die Mächte des Zeitlichen, nicht zerstückelt werden kann durch Kräfte des Sinnlichen. [Das will er ausdrücken, wenn er] eine uralte heilige Anschauung anknüpft an [seine eigene Zerstückelung]: Ich und Geistesmenschen sind nicht gebunden an sinn[lich]-physische Gesetze des Leibes, den sie selbst [erst] hervorgebracht, aufgebaut, verwandelt haben, sie sind in ihrem Wesen ewig und unveränderlich, indem sie das verwandeln und umbilden, das sie selbst [als das Ich und astralischer Leib] hervorgebracht haben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":439,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/68b/1907-10-31/p053"}],"english":["GA 68b/1907-10-31/p055"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":439,"en_words":456,"ratio":1.04,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8044,"original_word_count":7712,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Circular Flow of Man's Life within the World Of Sense, Soul And Spirit","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA068b/English/SOL2024/19071031p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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