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Als ich vor Kurzem diesen Vortrag hielt, sagte nachher einer: Ja, ich habe immer die Vorstellung: Wenn einer einen dicken, roten Hals hat und auch sonst sehr dick aussieht, dann ist er ein Materialist, das «sagt» mir der Betreffende selber durch sein Aussehen. — Der also redete, hat alles gehört, was gesagt worden ist, hat es aber nicht verstanden. 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