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Ich weiß auch, dass ich in einem kurzen Vortrag nicht mehr geben kann als diese paar Anregungen, denn in Bezug auf ein so wichtiges Thema kann ich selbstverständlich nicht eine Überzeugung hervorrufen, sondern es kann nur eine Anregung gegeben werden über die Richtung der Geistesforschungen, welche die Fortsetzung der Naturforschungen sein sollen, über die Richtung, welche die Geisteswissenschaft in Bezug auf den Christus-Impuls, die Christuswesenheit nimmt. Selbstverständlich muss das, was hier entwickelt worden ist, sich ganz langsam und allmählich in die Menschenseele einleben, und es wird sich auch einleben, je mehr sich die Geisteswissenschaft selbst [in diese] einlebt. Geisteswissenschaft ist ja eben nicht so bequem wie mancherlei anderes, was von der Menschenseele angenommen wird. Geisteswissenschaft macht das zur Voraussetzung, dass die Menschenseele sich erst umwandelt, bevor sie zu den Erkenntnissen kommt. 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