{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 70b/1915-11-29/p007","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"In contrast to this, the objections of the natural scientific view of the present will always be justified. I have already pointed out the meaning of these objections several times and can therefore briefly indicate them again today. It can rightly be said: If we look at the course of this soul life, see how it develops from its dim appearance in early childhood to maturity, see how it develops from maturity towards the old age conditions of the human being, we will see how this development, called spiritual, goes completely parallel with the bodily-physical development, how with the formation of the nervous system and the other organism of the human being from childhood on, the spiritual abilities also gradually develop, how they in turn decay with the physical decay. It can truly be said that anyone who looks at this with a proper scientific attitude today will see that the spiritual life, as it manifests itself in everyday life and also in science, really does appear like the flame that cannot be there without the candle being there, that is dependent on the candle and must disappear with the candle itself. One can definitely assert such a parallelism between the spiritual life, which seems to flare up from the functions of the physical body, and the physical body. And especially when one looks at those clinical studies that show how mental abilities are switched off when the human nervous system is diseased, how certain mental expressions are no longer there when this or that organ is diseased, if one looks at it, one cannot do but say: No matter how much we would like to believe the conclusions of some psychologists, the scientific view is so strong that we can hardly avoid giving our full approval to what is presented by the aforementioned side.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"4. The Eternal Forces of the Human Soul in the Light of Spiritual Science","site_heading":null,"date":"1915-11-29","location":null,"word_count":305,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/70b/1915-11-29/p007","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Ways to a Knowledge of the Eternal Forces of the Human Soul","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA070b/English/SOL2024/19151129p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Da kann mit Recht gesagt werden: Man sche sich nur an den Verlauf dieses Seelenlebens, sehe an, wie sich dieses Seelenleben entwickelt von seinem dämmerhaften Auftreten in der ersten Kindheit bis herauf zur Reife, sehe, wie es seinen Weg von der Reife gegen die Alterszustände des Menschen hindurch sich entwickelt, man wird sehen, wie diese geistig genannte Entwicklung ganz und gar parallel geht mit der leiblich-physischen Entwicklung, wie mit der Ausbildung des Nervensystems und des anderen Organismus des Menschen von der Kindheit an auch die geistigen Fähigkeiten sich allmählich entwickeln, wie sie wieder verfallen mit dem physischen Verfall. Man kann wirklich darauf hinweisen, dass, wer dieses mit rechter naturwissenschaftlicher Gesinnung heute ansieht, dass dem dieses geistige Leben, wie es sich nun einmal äußert in der Alltäglichkeit und auch in der Wissenschaft, erscheint wirklich wie die Flamme, die nicht da sein kann, ohne dass die Kerze da ist, die abhängig ist von der Kerze und mit der Kerze selber verschwinden muss. Man kann einen solchen Parallelismus zwischen dem geistigen Leben, das wie hervorzuflammen scheint aus den Verrichtungen des physischen Leibes, und dem physischen Leib durchaus behaupten. 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