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It is so appropriate to the facts that, even today, because spiritual science, as it really is, has not yet found much entrance, it is still the case in very many instances that some person believes that through special soul exercises he has recognized something that goes far beyond the sense world, that is rooted in the spiritual world , while he brings forth nothing but the bodily dispositions that would otherwise remain unconscious, all kinds of illusions that arise, which he does not recognize only because he does not have an overview of his soul life, all kinds of things that are transformed from bodily dispositions into hallucinations and the like. It must be all the more understandable that the natural scientist, who strictly adheres to the facts, also looks at spiritual scientific research in this way, because amateur spiritual scientific research is often nothing more than what the natural scientist quite rightly criticizes.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"8. The Harmony Between Spiritual Science and Natural Science and the Misconceptions about the Former and the Building Dedicated to it in Dornach","site_heading":null,"date":"1916-01-14","location":null,"word_count":196,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/70b/1916-01-14/p018","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Ways to a Knowledge of the Eternal Forces of the Human Soul","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA070b/English/SOL2024/19160114p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Er ist so den Tatsachen angemessen, dass es allerdings heute noch - weil Geisteswissenschaft, so wie sie wirklich ist, noch wenig Eingang gefunden hat - in sehr vielen Fällen so ist, dass irgendein Mensch glaubt, er habe durch besondere Seelenübungen etwas, was weit über die Sinneswelt hinausgeht, was in der geistigen Welt wurzelt, erkannt, während er nichts anderes heraufbringt als die sonst unbewusst bleibenden Leibesdispositionen, allerlei Illusionen, die sich ergeben, die er nur nicht erkennt, weil er eben sein Seelenleben nicht überblickt, allerlei, was sich ihm aus Leibesdispositionen in Halluzinationen umwandelt und dergleichen. 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