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And this could happen all the more since the thought, which otherwise seeks the allegorical, the symbolic, when it strives out of sensual reality, cannot, after all, get out of the pictorial, the unreal, the merely conceptual. When this thought often seeks the symbolic, the allegorical – the living thought that becomes one with the [gap in the transcript], it can express itself directly in art, so that art in forms, in colors and so on, lives out in external reality. That which was to be depicted [in this building] was not depicted in all kinds of artistic surrogates such as allegories and symbols and the like. It is therefore surprising when people look at the things and, although they cannot see a single symbol, talk about all kinds of mysteries, all sorts of signs and the like that can be seen in this Dornach building.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"8. The Harmony Between Spiritual Science and Natural Science and the Misconceptions about the Former and the Building Dedicated to it in Dornach","site_heading":null,"date":"1916-01-14","location":null,"word_count":276,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/70b/1916-01-14/p039","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Ways to a Knowledge of the Eternal Forces of the Human Soul","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA070b/English/SOL2024/19160114p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Nirgends sollte der bloße Gedanke wirken. Und das konnte um so mehr geschehen, als der Gedanke, der sonst die Allegorie, das Symbol sucht, wenn er hinausstrebt aus der sinnlichen Wirklichkeit, doch nicht hinauskommen kann aus der Bilderhaftigkeit, aus der Unwirklichkeit, aus dem bloß Gedankenhaften. Wenn dieser Gedanke oftmals das Symbolische, das Allegorische sucht - der lebendige Gedanke, der eins wird mit der [Lücke in der Mitschrift], der kann sich unmittelbar künstlerisch geben, sodass sich Kunst in Formen, in Farben und so weiter in äußerer Wirklichkeit auslebt. Dasjenige, was dargestellt werden sollte [in diesem Bau] wurde nicht in allerlei künstlerischen Surrogaten wie Allegorien und Symbolen und dergleichen dargestellt. 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