{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 71b/1918-02-18/p068","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"We would not see this spiritual if we did not see when our body was somehow diseased. By the fact that it is, the spiritual asserts itself. The spiritual researcher sees the spiritual by standing in the spiritual; the hallucinator sees a spiritual in a diseased, impossible way, actually, by partially switching off his normal physical for sensory perception. But this also means that the occurrence of a spiritual vision that we have no control over is always a sign of some kind of physical illness. One can say: It is understandable that people believe, that even researchers believe, that a real spiritual being is encountered in such a pathological physical condition; but it is to be rejected to do anything that leads to the illness of the physical body for the sake of a spiritual vision. The path that leads to the forced vision is to be rejected from the spiritual-scientific point of view, because it would be a promoter of the human organism becoming ill. And anyone who so misjudges the spiritual scientific methods, as they are described in my book “How to Know Higher Worlds,” as if these methods could somehow seduce one to cultivate that which they specifically condemn, defames these spiritual scientific methods. 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Man kann sagen: Es ist begreiflich, dass die Menschen glauben, dass selbst Forscher glauben, dass uns ein wirkliches Geistiges entgegentritt bei solcher krankhaften Leiblichkeit; aber es ist zu verwerfen, irgendetwas zu tun, welches herbeiführt die Erkrankung des Leiblichen zur geistigen Anschauung. Der Weg, der zu der zwangsmäßigen Vision führt, ist vom geisteswissenschaftlichen Standpunkt aus zu verwerfen, weil er ein Förderer wäre für das Krankwerden des menschlichen Organismus. Und derjenige, welcher die geisteswissenschaftlichen Methoden, wie sie in meinem Buch «Wie erlangt man Erkenntnisse der höheren Welten?» beschrieben werden, so verkennt, als ob diese Methoden irgendwie dazu verführen könnten, das zu kultivieren, was sie gerade verpönen, der verleumdet diese geisteswissenschaftlichen Methoden. 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