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And when more than twenty-five years ago I pointed out in my *Philosophy of Spiritual Activity* that it is necessary to observe correctly if we wish to approach freedom, I also indicated that on the other hand we have to progress toward purely intuitive thinking. Today I would add: This intuitive thinking is to be perceived before birth or conception. This was already written in *The Philosophy of Spiritual Activity* when I called the one element of the human will, *intuitive thinking.* The other element that arises as imaginative life I called, for the purposes of discussing freedom, *moral fantasy,* in order to make the book possible for those who consider the science of spirit a lot of nonsense. It is described there from a philosophical viewpoint. 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It is characterized by being performed out of love: *this is the truly free action.* We therefore have to say that what enters us as inspiration by way of our intuitive thinking, has no connection with our body. And what works imaginatively has no significance for the moment, but only after death. These two factors, having nothing to do with the body, are the real forces that work in the true, free act of will in the human being. 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The human being extricates himself from unfree actions by evolving increasingly toward his true self, especially in what he does and wills, where the spheres of before birth and after death shine into his willing. He evolves toward freedom within the sphere of unfreedom; he is on the way to becoming increasingly free. This is not a question of “either—or” but of action. Those who put the question in this way cannot possibly find an answer to the problem of freedom. On the contrary, it is a question of “both—and.” The human being is free in his actions inasmuch as the immortal soul is revealed to him underlying the life of the physical body. 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Und als ich vor mehr als einem Vierteljahrhundert in meiner «Philosophie der Freiheit» aufmerksam machte, dass man richtig beobachten muss, wenn man an die Freiheit herankommen will, da wies ich hin, dass man auf der einen Seite zum rein intuitiven Denken gehen muss. Heute füge ich hinzu: Dieses intuitive Denken wird vor der Geburt oder Empfängnis erkannt. Das steht schon in der «Philosophie der Freiheit», indem ich das eine Element des menschlichen Willens das intuitive Denken nannte.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":90,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/71b/1918-04-24/p059"},{"locus":"GA 71b/1918-04-24/p060","passage_number":60,"text":"Das andere Element, was als imaginatives Leben auftritt, das nannte ich für die Freiheitsfrage dazumal die moralische Phantasie, um für diejenigen auch das Buch brauchbar zu machen, die die Geisteswissenschaft für Narretei halten. Das, was in dem Buche steht, ist philosophisch geschildert. Der Geisteswissenschafter fügt hinzu, das dasjenige, was dort als moralische Phantasie auftritt, ein Teil davon ist, was in der Organisation des Menschen an unterbewusster Imagination lebt und gerade in moralischen Handlungen heraufsteigt. Durch das Zusammenwirken von moralischer Phantasie mit dem intuitiven Denken, sagte ich dazumal, entsteht das, was im wahren Sinne des Menschen eine willensfreie Handlung des Menschen ist. Heute füge ich hinzu: Was ist das Denken? Das, was hier unsere Inspiration ist, was vorgeburtlich ist. Wann tritt es auf? Dann tritt es auf, wenn wir imstande sind, eine Handlung so auszudenken, dass wir diese Handlung vollführen so, dass uns diese Handlung so lieb ist, dass sie nichts mit unseren Trieben und Neigungen zu tun hat, sondern uns so lieb ist wie eine Persönlichkeit, die wir wirklich lieben, weil wir ihr Wesen erkannt haben. Wenn wir eine Handlung aus Liebe vollführen - also nicht aus Egoismus, aus spielenden Vorstellungen, sondern aus der Einsicht in die innere Notwendigkeit der Handlung -, dann geben wir uns den intuitiven Handlungen hin; dann sind wir inspiriert von dem vorgeburtlichen Leben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":218,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/71b/1918-04-24/p060"},{"locus":"GA 71b/1918-04-24/p061","passage_number":61,"text":"Woher aber kommt dazu die Kraft? Damals sagte ich: ... [Lücke]. Heute füge ich hinzu: Es ist die Kraft, die nach dem Tode uns hinüberträgt in die geistige Welt. Das spielt in uns unterbewusst. Im moralischen Handeln, das sich frei entfaltet, leuchtet herauf dasjenige, was vor der Geburt oder Empfängnis liegt. Das koppelt sich zusammen mit dem, was nach dem Tode in die geistige Welt hineintritt. Während wir leben zwischen der Geburt und dem Tode, handeln wir schon, indem unbewusst das in uns hereinspielt, was vor der Geburt liegt, im intuitiven Denken, das inspirierend in unser Leben hereinfließt. Was nach dem Tode liegt, das ist das, was gar nicht mit uns zusammenhängt und doch von uns verrichtet wird; was den Charakter trägt, dass es aus Liebe verrichtet wird; das ist die wahrhaft freie Handlung. Darum muss man sagen: Was uns aus dem reinen Denken hereininspiriert, hängt gar nicht mit unserem Leibe zusammen. Der muss sich zurückziehen, um das entfalten zu können. 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Die Willensfreiheitsfrage und die Unsterblichkeitsfrage, sie sind innig miteinander verbunden, weil wahrhaft frei im Menschen nur diejenigen Handlungen sind, in denen hereinwirkt das Übersinnliche, das noch nicht an den Leib Gebundene, das der Mensch in der geistigen Welt entwickelt, bevor er den Leib an sich trägt, im Zusammenhang mit dem, was sich in der Überentwicklung ergibt, was für die jetzige Entwicklung noch keine Bedeutung hat, was erst nach dem Tode Bedeutung hat, aber hereinleuchtet in der Handlung, die sich von uns absondert, die abgesondert von uns verrichtet wird.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":151,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/71b/1918-04-24/p062"},{"locus":"GA 71b/1918-04-24/p063","passage_number":63,"text":"Ich habe deshalb dazumal schon in der «Philosophie der Freiheit» gesagt: Man kann nicht die Frage so stellen: Ist der Mensch frei oder unfrei? Da kommt man immer auf falsche Antworten. Es handelt sich nicht um ein Entweder-oder auf diesem Gebiet, sondern um ein Sowohl-als-auch. Der Mensch verrichtet eine ganz große Anzahl von Handlungen, die aus dem Bedürfnis seines Leibes, aus dem Spiel seiner Vorstellungen, die aus dem Leibe heraufkommen, erfolgen; die aus den Trieben seines Leibes erfolgen. Aber immerzu hat er das Ideal, solche Handlungen zu vollziehen, bei denen er sich sagt: Ich komme nicht in Betracht, so frei ist das, was sich da vollziehen soll, wie die menschliche Wesenheit, die ich liebe, frei von mir ist; es geschieht nur aus dem, weil ich einsehe, diese Tatsache soll vollzogen werden. Eine solche Handlung, sie ist eine, nach der alles menschliche Denken hintendiert, hinwill, was sich hineinlebt in das unfreie Handeln, was wir damals besprachen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":155,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/71b/1918-04-24/p063"},{"locus":"GA 71b/1918-04-24/p064","passage_number":64,"text":"Der Mensch entwickelt sich aus den unfreien Handlungen, indem er immer mehr und mehr nach dem wahren Selbst hin sich entwickelt, gerade im Handeln, im Wollen, indem in dieses Wollen hereinleuchtet das Vorgeburtliche und das Nachtodliche. Der Mensch entwickelt sich innerhalb des Unfreien zum Freien hin; er ist auf dem Wege, immer freier und freier zu werden. Da handelt es sich um Handeln, nicht um ein Entweder-oder. Diejenigen, die so die Frage stellen, können nie zur Beantwortung der Freiheitsfrage kommen. 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