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The moment we consciously enter into our feeling and will life, we enter a region where we also stand on common ground with the souls who have passed through the gate of death. The separation between the so-called living human souls and the so-called dead human souls is bridged by spiritual science. It is bridged by spiritual science in a very precise way. Through a very precise way of looking at things, however, the life of the soul must be transformed again. If one really wants to make real perceptions in this realm into which human beings enter — dreams come involuntarily, what is experienced in dreams comes involuntarily — if one wants to bring something into one's consciousness that really comes from the realm where the dead live, then one must use just such arbitrary ideas, but now higher than those of waking daytime consciousness, because these ideas must encompass the life of feeling and will; he must face the objects in the spiritual world with just as arbitrary ideas as one otherwise faces the objects in the sensory world. In ordinary dreams, one cannot distinguish between what compels one to imagine and oneself. This distinction is present when the spiritual researcher approaches the life to which the souls who have passed through death also belong.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"6. 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In dem Augenblick, wo wir bewußt eintreten in unser Gefühls- und Willensleben, treten wir in eine Region ein, wo wir auf gemeinsamem Gebiet auch mit den Seelen stehen, die durch die Pforte des Todes gegangen sind.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":170,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/72/1917-11-30/p061"},{"locus":"GA 72/1917-11-30/p062","passage_number":62,"text":"Das Getrenntsein zwischen den sogenannten lebenden Menschenseelen und den sogenannten gestorbenen Menschenseelen überbrückt sich durch Geisteswissenschaft. Es überbrückt sich durch Geisteswissenschaft auf eine ganz exakte Weise. Durch eine ganz exakte Betrachtungsweise muß allerdings das Seelenleben wiederum umgestaltet werden. 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