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Anyone using the strictest form of thinking learned in natural science has to arrive at a different thesis: ‘I think’—and this refers specifically to thinking where one has withdrawn from the outside world—‘and therefore I am not.’ Any genuine position taken with regard to the spiritual world begins with realization of the truth that we get to know our non-existence as soul entities, the essential nature of our self, in so far as soon as we move to a thinking that is wholly abstracted we are *not*.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":115,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/73/1918-10-08/p025","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1918-10-08","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 73/1918-10-08/p022","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73/1918-10-08/p022"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"length_check":{"de_words":106,"en_words":115,"ratio":1.08,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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It should provide the basis for spiritual investigation. It is not something arising from the living experience of the chosen few but something everyone can achieve. If we strengthen thinking in isolation, abstracted from sensory perception, it comes alive as much as do the events that happen in metabolism, for example.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":151,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/73/1918-10-08/p028","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1918-10-08","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 73/1918-10-08/p025","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73/1918-10-08/p025"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"length_check":{"de_words":163,"en_words":151,"ratio":0.93,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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It is a feeling which is above all limited to the human head organization. But it is only this which will show us how the human bodily organization relates to thinking. Anyone who does not have this experience may have all kinds of strange ideas about the way human thinking relates to the human body. Someone who does have it will never say: ‘This human body produces thinking,’ for—and the fact is evident—this human body does not have the impulses in its generative powers that give rise to thinking. Destructive processes happen in the body when we think, as destructive, I would say, as those which happen when we get hungry and body substance is broken down and destroyed. It has thus been rather strange that people whose thinking is more or less materialistic or mechanistic have arrived at the idea that the body gives rise to our thinking. It no more gives rise to it than do the powers that are its generative powers, powers that constitute the human being. 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Denn derjenige, welcher gerade das strengste Denken verfolgt, das an der Naturwissenschaft heranerzogen ist, der muß zu einem anderen Satze kommen, zu dem Satze: Ich denke — und gemeint ist gerade das von der Außenwelt zurückgezogene Denken: Ich denke, also bin ich nicht. —- Es beginnt alle wirkliche Stellungnahme gegenüber der geistigen Welt mit der Einsicht in die Wahrheit, daß wir über unser Nichtsein als Seelenwesen, über das Wesen unseres Selbst, insoferne wir nicht sind, Aufschluß gewinnen in dem Momente, wo wir zum völlig abgezogenen Denken übergehen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":106,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73/1918-10-08/p022"},{"locus":"GA 73/1918-10-08/p023","passage_number":23,"text":"Das ist die Schwierigkeit, welche die hier gemeinte Geisteswissenschaft hat, wenn sie den Weg finden will in die Menschengemüter, daß sie allerdings merkwürdige Anforderungen an die Menschen stellt. Würde sie die Anforderung stellen, daß die Menschen in ihren gewohnten Geleisen weitergehen können, daß man erwachen könne, wenn man den einmal angefangenen Weg eben weiter verfolge, daß sich die Rätsel der übersinnlichen Erkenntnis lösen, würde sie so etwas in Aussicht stellen, so würde sie gegenüber den Denkgewohnheiten mancher Zeitgenossen ein leichtes Spiel haben. Allein diese Geisteswissenschaft muß die Forderung einer völlig wissenschaftlichen Sinnesänderung stellen aus den unmittelbaren Erlebnissen des unbefangenen Bewußtseins heraus.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":101,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73/1918-10-08/p023"},{"locus":"GA 73/1918-10-08/p024","passage_number":24,"text":"Nun handelt es sich darum: Wie stellt man fest den Satz Ich denke, also bin ich nicht. — Geisteswissenschaft wendet dazu gerade ein energisches Verfolgen dieses Denkens an, wodurch man zu dem Irrtume kommt: Ich denke, also bin ich — cogito ergo sum. — Das ist, als ob man das Denken gewinne und dann beim Denken stehenbleibe. Geistesforschung kann nicht beim Denken bloß stehenbleiben. Geisteswissenschaft muß das Denken verstärken, erkraften, muß auf das Denken eine seelische Tätigkeit anwenden, die man bezeichnen kann mit dem Worte Meditation.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":86,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73/1918-10-08/p024"},{"locus":"GA 73/1918-10-08/p025","passage_number":25,"text":"Worin besteht diese Meditation? Sie besteht nicht so sehr in einem Vertiefen des Denkens, sondern in einem Verstärken des Denkens. Gewisse Gedanken, die man sich vorsetzt, die man immer wiederum in das Bewußtsein bringt, bis sie dem Denken so viel innere Dichtigkeit gegeben haben, daß das Denken nicht bloß Denken ist, sondern Erlebnis wird wie ein anderes Erlebnis, das eben ein stärkeres Erlebnis ist als das bloße abstrakte Denken: das ist Meditieren. Das Meditieren macht manchem viel Mühe. Je nach den verschiedenen Anlagen muß man sich mehr oder weniger monate-, jahrelang oder noch länger dabei anstrengen; allein es kann bei jedem Menschen dasjenige Erleben herbeigeführt werden, das hier gemeint ist. Es ist dasjenige, was der Geistesforschung zugrunde gelegt werden soll, nicht irgend etwas, was nur aus Erlebnissen auserlesener einzelner Menschen zustande kommt, sondern dasjenige, wozu jeder Mensch gelangen kann. Wenn das einsame Denken, das abgezogene Denken erkraftet wird, dann wird es ein so lebendiges Erlebnis, wie zum Beispiel die Erlebnisse des Stoffwechsels sind.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":163,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73/1918-10-08/p025"},{"locus":"GA 73/1918-10-08/p026","passage_number":26,"text":"Wiederum ein überraschendes Resultat, aber ein Resultat, das im sinnlichen Erleben ebenso klar vor die Seele treten kann wie für den Botaniker die Pflanzenzellen, die er mikroskopisch untersucht, ihm klar vor der Seele erscheinen! Aber es ist ein merkwürdiges Erlebnis, das man dann mit dem Denken hat. Dieses innere Erlebnis, diese innere Seelenverfassung, die man dann gewinnt, wenn man das Denken verstärkt, sie läßt sich nur vergleichen mit dem Hungergefühl. So sonderbar, so überraschend es klingt, es läßt sich vergleichen mit dem Hungergefühl, mit einem Hungergefühl, das allerdings nicht so auftritt wie das Hungergefühl gegenüber dem Speisebedürfnis, sondern es ist ein solches, das vor allen Dingen auf die menschliche Hauptesorganisation beschränkt ist. Aber es belehrt uns dieses eigentlich erst, wie sich unsere menschliche Leibesorganisation zu dem Denken verhält. Derjenige, der dieses Erlebnis nicht hat, kann sich allerlei merkwürdige Vorstellungen über die Beziehung des menschlichen Denkens zu dem menschlichen Leibe bilden. Wer dieses Erlebnis hat, wird nimmermehr sagen: Dieser menschliche Leib bringt das Denken hervor -, denn — das zeigt die unmittelbare Tatsache — es liegen in diesem menschlichen Leibe in bezug auf seine Bildungskräfte nicht solche Impulse, die das Denken hervorbringen, sondern wenn gedacht wird, dann wird ebenso abgebaut im Leibe, ebenso, ich möchte sagen, zerstört, wie abgebaut, zerstört wird, wenn wir Hunger bekommen. Sonderbar war es daher, wenn das mehr oder weniger materialistische oder mechanistische Denken behauptete, der Leib brächte das Denken hervor. Er bringt es so wenig hervor wie die Kräfte, die seine Bildungskräfte sind, die ihn konstituieren. Also er muß abbauen wie beim Hunger, wenn das Denken in ihm Platz greifen soll.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":265,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73/1918-10-08/p026"},{"locus":"GA 73/1918-10-08/p027","passage_number":27,"text":"Erst wenn man dieses überraschende Erlebnis hat, dann weiß man im Grunde genommen, was Denken ist. Dann weiß man, daß Denken die Entfaltung nicht einer seelischen Wirklichkeit ist, die sich vergleichen läßt mit der äußeren sinnlichen Wirklichkeit, sondern man weiß, daß man, indem man denkend untertaucht in die eigene Organisation, in sein Unwirkliches untertaucht, daß man aufhört zu sein, indem man in das Denken untertaucht.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":65,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73/1918-10-08/p027"},{"locus":"GA 73/1918-10-08/p028","passage_number":28,"text":"Dann entsteht die große bange Frage: Wie kommt man nun weiter? Geistesforschung stellt den Menschen nicht an theoretische Punkte der Forschung, sondern an Erlebnispunkte, an solche Punkte, die mit aller Kraft des Erlebens das weitere Forschen herausfordern. Und niemand wird eigentlich in rechtem Sinne in die geistige Welt eindringen können, der nicht dasjenige erlebt hat, von dem ich jetzt gesprochen habe, und der sich nicht überzeugt hat, wie man mit dem Denken in das Nicht-Sein untertaucht: Ich denke, also bin ich nicht.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":82,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73/1918-10-08/p028"}],"beads":[{"from":[25],"to":[22],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[26],"to":[23],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[27],"to":[24],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[28],"to":[25],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[29],"to":[26],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[30],"to":[27],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[31],"to":[28],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. 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