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I would say that thinking is only essential in a different age than the will. The will, where it has not yet struggled through to pure thinking, is younger, so to speak, still in adolescence. When it has developed further and further, it reaches a certain age – this is, of course, a figurative way of speaking – and then it is able to live as pure thinking, which is a further step. This has been demonstrated quite well to you this evening: pure thinking is meditation. 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Nun, wenn man sich darüber eine klare Vorstellung machen will, muß zunächst berücksichtigt werden, welches Verhältnis das, was man im allgemeinen Leben gewöhnlich Willen nennt, zu dem hat, was man Idee nennt, und was man dann als den weiteren Weg anzuerkennen hat von der Idee zu der übersinnlichen Erkenntnis.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":64,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73a/1920-03-25/p005"},{"locus":"GA 73a/1920-03-25/p006","passage_number":6,"text":"Es ist Ihnen ja heute von Herrn Dr. Unger über das reine Denken gesprochen worden. Wer wesenhaft unterscheiden wollte den Willen von dem reinen Denken, der würde etwa so sich die Sache zurechtlegen wie jemand, der fragen würde: Welcher Unterschied besteht denn eigentlich, sagen wir zwischen dem Knaben, der 1749 in Frankfurt am Main geboren ist, in dem Haus","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":59,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73a/1920-03-25/p006"},{"locus":"GA 73a/1920-03-25/p007","passage_number":7,"text":"63 soundso gelebt hat, und dem Geheimrat, der 1827 in Weimar gelebt hat? - Ein und derselbe Mensch, ein und dieselbe Wesenheit: Es war Goethe. So ist, innerlich angesehen, der Wille als wesenhaft tätiges Element ja ganz dasselbe wie das Denken, denn dasjenige, was tätig ist gerade im reinen Denken, das ist Wille - nur daß man selbstverständlich nichts für erkenntnistheoretische Erörterungen gewinnt, wenn man gerade dieses Willenswesenhafte des reinen Denkens betont.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":72,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/73a/1920-03-25/p007"},{"locus":"GA 73a/1920-03-25/p008","passage_number":8,"text":"Um erkenntnistheoretisch das Denken zu charakterisieren, muß man eben so vorgehen, wie der Redner des heutigen Abends vorgegangen ist. Wesenhaft, möchte ich sagen, ist das reine Denken nur in einem anderen Alter als der Wille. Der Wille, wo er noch nicht zum reinen Denken sich durchgerungen hat, ist eben jünger, ist gewissermaßen noch im Jugendalter. 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Und es ist eine ganz besondere Ausbildung des Willens, wenn man zum reinen Denken übergeht oder aus dem reinen Denken heraus in die Meditation übergeht. Man kann durchaus sagen: Schon diese ganze Entwicklung des zunächst ja in unklaren Vorstellungen lebenden Menschen zum reinen Denken hin und dann zur Meditation hin, diese ganze Anstrengung ist im wesentlichen Willenserziehung. Daher ist auch schon das, was man nötig hat zum wirklichen Begreifen geisteswissenschaftlicher Erkenntnisse, wesentlich eine Willensanstrengung. Und derjenige, der sich bemüht, auf geisteswissenschaftliche Erkenntnisse einzugehen, der übt Willensanstrengung, und er übt damit überhaupt seinen Willen. 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