{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 75/1922-05-11/p021","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"But anthroposophy draws the final conclusion, to which everything in modern natural science actually tends. Even in this modern natural science, we have recently come to a high degree of development of this phenomenalism, which is still little admitted in theory but is applied in practice, by simply not concerning ourselves with the hypothetical atomic worlds and the like and remaining within the phenomena. But if we stop at the phenomena, we arrive at a very definite conclusion. We arrive at the conclusion that we really come to agnosticism. If we merely string together phenomena by thinking, if we bring order into phenomena, we never come to man himself through this ordering, through this tracing of laws. And that is the peculiar thing, that we must simply admit to ourselves: If you draw the final, fully justified conclusion of modern science, if you go as far as pure phenomenalism, if you put unjustified hypotheses of thought behind the veil of the sensory world, you cannot help but arrive at agnosticism. But this agnosticism is something quite different for knowledge than what humanity has actually hoped for and sought through knowledge within its course of development, within its history.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"6. 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Wenn man durch das Denken bloß die Phänomene aneinanderreiht, Ordnung hineinbringt in die Phänomene, so kommt man niemals mit diesem Ordnen, mit diesem Verfolgen von Gesetzmäßigkeiten an den Menschen selbst heran. Und das ist das Eigentümliche, daß man sich einfach offen gestehen muß: Wenn man die letzte, vollberechtigte Konsequenz der modernen Naturwissenschaft zieht, wenn man bis zum reinen Phänomenalismus geht, wenn man nicht unberechtigte Denkhypothesen hinter den Teppich der Sinnenwelt setzt- man kann gar nicht anders als zum Agnostizismus kommen. 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