{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 75/1922-05-11/p030","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"And so we are obliged to ask ourselves: How do we found moral science and with it the basis of all spiritual science, including all social science? How do we found moral science in an age in which we must justifiably recognize phenomenalism for external nature? That was the big question for me at the time I wrote my “Philosophy of Freedom.” I stood on the ground - completely on the ground! on the ground of modern natural science, yes, on the ground of a phenomenalism regarding what can be fathomed by the process of knowledge from the external world of the senses. But then, if one follows the consequences with all honesty to the end, one must say: If morality is to be justified objectively, then another knowledge must be able to stand alongside this knowledge, which leads to phenomenalism and thus to agnosticism - a knowledge that does not thinking to devise hypothetical worlds behind the phenomena of the senses, but a knowledge must be established that can grasp the spiritual directly in intuition, after it - except for the mathematical - is no longer carried out into the world in the old way. It is precisely agnosticism that, on the one hand, compels us to fully recognize it in its own field, but at the same time also compels us to rouse our minds to activity in order to grasp a spiritual world from which we can, in the first instance, if we do not want to remain merely in the subjective, find moral principles through objective spiritual observation.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"6. 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Dann aber muß man sich, wenn man die Konsequenz mit aller Ehrlichkeit bis zuletzt verfolgt, sagen: Wenn Moral objektiv begründet werden soll, dann muß sich neben diese Erkenntnis, die zum Phänomenalismus und damit zum Agnostizismus führt, eine andere hinstellen können - eine Erkenntnis, die nun nicht das Denken verwendet, um hypothetische Welten auszusinnen hinter den Phänomenen der Sinne, sondern es muß eine Erkenntnis begründet werden, die das Geistige unmittelbar in der Anschauung erfassen kann, nachdem es- außer dem Mathematischen - nicht mehr im alten Stile hinausgetragen wird in die Welt. 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