{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 76/1921-04-04/p015","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"What I am pointing out to you is a very significant phenomenon. And we can only understand it if we follow the philosophical development of the West as I have tried to do in my book “The Riddles of Philosophy”. If we go into what I have explained in detail there with reference to the history of philosophy, and what I can only hint at here, we see that in the age of Greek philosophy the whole human soul was different from what it later became and especially from what it is in our time. We see how in Greek philosophizing, what we call thinking, what we call imagining, is linked in a similar way to the conditions of the external world, insofar as it presents itself to man, as for us only the qualities of sensory perception. When we perceive, we ascribe, at least in naive consciousness, the sensual qualities to what we perceive. Certainly, the epistemological discussions since Locke and others think differently, but they need interest us less at this moment; I want to refer only to naive consciousness for the fact that has been brought up. In this naive consciousness, one attributes the sensory qualities red, blue, white, warm, cold, lukewarm, sweet, bitter, etc., to things, and today it is clear that what one thinks and imagines about sensory objects is separated from the objective in the process of becoming conscious, that it is experienced subjectively. But the Greeks attributed their thinking, their ideas, to the object just as we attribute red, blue, sweet, bitter and so on to the object; they had what they experienced in knowing, to an even greater extent, so to speak, in perceiving than we have. They were fully aware that they perceived the conceptual content at the same time as the red, green and so on.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"2. 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Wir sehen, wie im griechischen Philosophieren durchaus das, was wir Denken nennen, was wir Vorstellen nennen, in einer ähnlichen Weise mit den Bedingungen der Außenwelt, insofern sie sich dem Menschen darstellt, verknüpft ist, wie für uns nurmehr die sinnlichen Wahrnehmungsqualitäten. Indem wir wahrnehmen, schreiben wir, wenigstens im naiven Bewußtsein, dem, was wir wahrnehmen, die sinnlichen Qualitäten zu. Gewiß, die erkenntnistheoretischen Erörterungen seit Locke und anderen denken anders, aber sie brauchen uns in diesem Augenblicke weniger zu interessieren; ich will für die herangezogene Tatsache nur auf das naive Bewußtsein verweisen. Man schreibt in diesem naiven Bewußtsein den Dingen die Sinnesqualitäten rot, blau, weiß, warm, kalt, lau, süß, bitter und so weiter zu, und man ist sich heute klar darüber, daß dasjenige, was man an den Sinnesobjekten denkt und vorstellt, im Bewußtwerden abgesondert ist von dem Objektiven, daß es subjektiv erlebt wird. Der Grieche schrieb aber sein Denken, seine Vorstellungen dem Objekte noch so zu, wie wir rot, blau, süß, bitter und so weiter dem Objekte zuschreiben; er hatte, was er im Erkennen erlebte, zu einem noch größeren Teile sozusagen in der Wahrnehmung drinnen, als wir das haben. 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