{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 78/1921-08-30/p008","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Goethe certainly did not tread all the different paths that can lead from the lowlands to the heights. Despite his greatness, he was in a certain sense extraordinarily modest inwardly; but that was not the point. The point was whether one could see in Goethe everywhere the tendency to ascend from the lowlands of scientific striving to the peaks of existence. And this tendency could be clearly seen. But in Goethe, one perceived something that could initially serve as a guide. I recall a statement Goethe made during his Italian journey in the 1780s, which can be found in his printed work “Italian Journey.” I recall that Goethe used this Italian journey not only to penetrate the essence of artistic creation in his own way, but also to gain a scientific worldview from his observations of the mineralogical and geognostic phenomena he encountered, and from his observations of the plant and animal world. And after he had already spent many months on this journey, after he had already developed all kinds of scientific principles—that is, those that he considered to be such—he wrote the meaningful words: “After what I have seen here in terms of plants and fish, I would like to... embark on a journey to India, not to discover something new, but to view what has been discovered in my own way.”","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Second Lecture","site_heading":"Thinking as Creative Participation in Reality","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Jahrhunderts und der sich wiederfindet in seiner gedruckten Schrift von der «Italienischen Reise». Ich erinnere daran, daß Goethe diese italienische Reise nicht nur dazu benützt hat, um nach seiner Art in das Wesen des künstlerischen Schaffens einzudringen, sondern auch dazu, um aus der Beobachtung des Mineralisch-Geognostischen, das ihm entgegentrat, aus der Beobachtung des Pflanzen- und Tierwesens, eine wissenschaftliche Weltanschauung zu gewinnen. Und nachdem er schon viele Monate auf dieser Reise zugebracht hatte, nachdem er bereits allerlei wissenschaftliche Prinzipien — das heißt solche, die von ihm so angesehen worden sind — ausgestaltet hatte, schrieb er eben das bedeutungsvolle Wort: Nach dem, was ich hier an Pflanzen und Fischen gesehen habe, möchte ich... eine Reise nach Indien antreten, nicht um etwas Neues zu entdecken, sondern um das Entdeckte nach meiner Art anzusehen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":229,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/78/1921-08-30/p008"}],"english":["GA 78/1921-08-30/p008"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":229,"en_words":224,"ratio":0.98,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.01,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5464,"original_word_count":5410,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"Anthroposophy: Its Roots of Knowledge and Fruits of Life","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA078/English/SOL2025/19210830p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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