{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 80a/1922-05-16/p044","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"But what does our civilization gain from this, ladies and gentlemen? Well, what is gained is not unimportant. What is gained can certainly be used. Do we have spirituality today? We have thoughts about the spirit and we live in these thoughts and ideas. But if we look back to older times, it was different. Yes, my dear audience, it was different. We do not want to conjure up old times again, nor do we want to overestimate them. We know that humanity must always move forward; we do not want to bring up in a reactionary way what belongs to a bygone era. But when we look at the ancient epochs from which many unconscious beliefs have come down to us, we see that in those ancient times there were insights through which the spirit was grasped not only in thoughts, but through which the spirit entered the whole human being in a living way. One can say of a person of those times, not only: He has thoughts about the spirit, he has ideas about the spirit, but through his thoughts and ideas the living spirit moves into the human being. Such epochs have existed, and such epochs have actually given the right power and the right impulses for the development of humanity, where it was known that the spirit lives among us, the divinity lives among us. Only then did spiritual knowledge deepen into true religious devotion. If such times can arise again, not in the old form but in the modern form, then the human being acquires a true religious inwardness, an appropriate piety, through deepening their knowledge of anthroposophy. But through this, the modern being gains the knowledge that a time will come when not only, as is the case today, thoughts and ideas live in dryness, but also in the spirituality. Spirituality will move through the living thought. And through the suffering-overcoming conception of reality, the living thought, the living reality, the spirit itself in its liveliness will move into the human being. We must long for such a time because we need it, in which we say to ourselves again: Not only do we exist in the world, we as human beings with our outwardly random actions, but because we human beings ourselves are spiritual , we recognize our relationship to the eternal spirit, we recognize how other spiritual beings are at work beside us, a spiritual world, just like the sensual one, how the spirits not only live in our thoughts, but how they are our fellow travelers in earthly life.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Anthroposophy and Knowledge of the Spirit","site_heading":null,"date":"1922-05-16","location":null,"word_count":429,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/80a/1922-05-16/p044","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Essence of Anthroposophy","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA080a/English/SOL2024/19220516p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Wenn wir aber hinüberschauen auf die alten Epochen, aus denen manch unbewusstes Glaubensergebnis herüberkommt, dann sehen wir: In jenen alten Zeiten waren eben solche Erkenntnisse da, durch die der Geist nicht nur in Gedanken erfasst wurde, sondern durch die der Geist lebendig einzog in die ganze menschliche Wesenheit. Von einem Menschen dieser Zeiten kann man sagen, nicht nur: Er hat Gedanken über den Geist, er hat Ideen über den Geist, sondern durch seine Gedanken und Ideen zieht der lebendige Geist in die menschliche Wesenheit ein. Solche Epochen hat es gegeben, und solche Epochen haben eigentlich die rechte Kraft und die rechten Impulse der Menschheitsentwicklung gegeben, wo man gewusst hat, unter uns lebt der Geist, unter uns lebt die Göttlichkeit. Erst da vertiefte sich die geistige Erkenntnis zu der wahrhaft religiösen Frömmigkeit. Können solche Zeiten, aber nicht in der alten Gestalt, sondern in der modernen Gestalt, wieder heraufziehen, so erwirbt sich der Mensch dadurch, dass er sich anthroposophisch erkenntnismäßig vertieft, eine wahre religiöse Innerlichkeit, eine angemessene Frömmigkeit. Aber dadurch wird für das moderne Wesen dasjenige wiederum gewonnen, dass eine Zeit kommen wird, wo nicht bloß, wie es heute der Fall ist, in der Trockenheit die Gedanken und die Ideen leben von der Geistigkeit. Geistigkeit wird einziehen durch den lebendigen Gedanken. Und durch die Leid überwindende Wirklichkeitsvorstellung wird einziehen in den Menschen der lebendige Gedanke, die lebendige Wirklichkeit, der Geist selbst in seiner Lebendigkeit. Eine solche Zeit müssen wir heraufsehnen, weil wir sie brauchen, in der wir uns wieder sagen: Nicht nur wir stehen in der Welt da, wir als Menschengestalten mit unseren äußerlich als zufällig angesehenen Handlungen, sondern indem wir Menschen ja selber Geistiges umfassend sind, unser Verhältnis zum ewigen Geist erkennen, erkennen wir, wie neben uns wirken andere Geistwesen, eine geistige Welt, ebenso wie die sinnliche, wie die Geister nicht bloß in unseren Gedanken leben, sondern wie sie neben uns im Erdenleben unsere Mitgenossen sind.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":422,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/80a/1922-05-16/p044"}],"english":["GA 80a/1922-05-16/p044"],"method":"identity","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":422,"en_words":429,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.02,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":9395,"original_word_count":9183,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Essence of Anthroposophy","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA080a/English/SOL2024/19220516p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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