{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 80b/1922-02-12/p022","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Is not that to which ordinary knowledge surrenders also something turned away from life when we surrender to life in the usual robust way, when we live our existence in the world only by exerting our physical bodies from morning till night? What we call knowledge, even in ordinary life, cannot come about through this. The finer concepts, the more intimate connections with the world that are sought through knowledge, depend – initially in a formal way – on the external, robust way of life. In a sense, one has to retreat to a place of existence in knowledge that lies apart from the external life. And yet, one must admit that through that which one intimately explores in this remote place, by observing, experimenting, and thereby going beyond the ordinary course of existence with observation and experiment, that precisely through this light comes into life; that light comes into life from something that withdraws from life. Could it not also be the case that the mysterious world of dreams is initially meaningless for the external, robust life, but that it is precisely in its remoteness, and in a remoteness in a higher sense than ordinary knowledge, that it points to the essence of life?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"5. Natural Death and Spiritual Life","site_heading":null,"date":"1922-02-12","location":null,"word_count":205,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/80b/1922-02-12/p022","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Inner Nature and Essence of the Human Soul","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA080b/English/SOL2024/19220212p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Und dennoch, man muss zugeben, dass durch dasjenige, das man an diesem abseitigen Orte in inniger Weise erkundet, indem man beobachtet, experimentiert, und dadurch auch mit der Beobachtung, mit dem Experiment aus dem gewöhnlichen Daseinslaufe hinweggeht, dass dadurch gerade Licht in das Leben hineinkommt; dass also Licht in das Leben hineinkommt von etwas, das sich vom Leben zurückzieht. Könnte es denn nicht auch so sein, dass zwar die rätselvolle Traumeswelt zunächst für das äußere, robuste Leben bedeutungslos wäre, dass sie aber gerade in ihrer Abseitigkeit, und zwar in einer Abseitigkeit in einem höheren Sinne als es die gewöhnliche Erkenntnis ist, dass sie gerade dadurch auf das Leben in seinem Wesen hinweise?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":220,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/80b/1922-02-12/p021"}],"english":["GA 80b/1922-02-12/p022"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":220,"en_words":205,"ratio":0.93,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.03,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8163,"original_word_count":7949,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Inner Nature and Essence of the Human Soul","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA080b/English/SOL2024/19220212p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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