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This is, at least, a kind of ideal for scientific method to-day. But it was not always so. The scientific spirit, as acknowledged to-day, has been elaborated in the course of human evolution. I should like to draw your attention to three stages only—of which the present is the third—in this development, and I shall do so in a more narrative form. 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He cultivates the scientific spirit as, in a sense, a most lofty thing. If we look back at the ancient Orient—not necessarily so far back as the most ancient Indian times, but to times more recent—we found much of what had been handed down as cognitive principles still retained. The path to knowledge was named quite differently then. In those ancient times—even the history of language can support this—man did not think of himself as he does to-day. Modern man has, on the one hand, his consciousness of self firmly established within him, and, on the other hand, a grasp, through observation, of what is mechanistic. But the man of the Orient, for example, could not have this feeling of himself. (As I have said, the history of language can prove this.) He felt himself, in the first place, as a *breathing* human being. To him, man was a breather. In self-contemplation he focussed his attention chiefly upon the respiratory process. He even related immortality to the respiratory process: death came to him as a kind of expiration of his soul.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":204,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/82/1922-04-08/p038","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1922-04-08","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 82/1922-04-08/p020","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/82/1922-04-08/p020"},{"locus":"GA 82/1922-04-08/p021","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/82/1922-04-08/p021"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 82/1922-04-08/p020"],"reader_part":true,"length_check":{"de_words":1321,"en_words":1278,"ratio":0.97,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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He felt his perceptions permeated by the flow of the breath. It was just the same when the will stirred. He stretched out his hand and felt this movement as if it were something linked up with the respiratory movements. An expansion of the breath through the whole body was felt as an inner life-process. He even felt the more theoretical perception of the outer world through the senses to be ensouled with breath, just as he felt the breath ensouling the movements of the will.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":179,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/82/1922-04-08/p039","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1922-04-08","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 82/1922-04-08/p020","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/82/1922-04-08/p020"},{"locus":"GA 82/1922-04-08/p021","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/82/1922-04-08/p021"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 82/1922-04-08/p020"],"reader_part":true,"length_check":{"de_words":1321,"en_words":1278,"ratio":0.97,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Those who came to be “savants” through Yoga exercises—the word “savant” is not quite appropriate to these earlier conditions, but perhaps one can use it—required as long for this as we do for a university course. In the knowledge so acquired they had grasped in the disposition of their souls what, in a later age—the Graeco-Roman, for example—was regarded as a world of ideas and present of itself in the soul, thus making Yoga unnecessary.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":146,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/82/1922-04-08/p041","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1922-04-08","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 82/1922-04-08/p020","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/82/1922-04-08/p020"},{"locus":"GA 82/1922-04-08/p021","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/82/1922-04-08/p021"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 82/1922-04-08/p020"],"reader_part":true,"length_check":{"de_words":1321,"en_words":1278,"ratio":0.97,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Wenn wir zurückgehen in den alten Orient - wir brauchen nicht einmal bis in die ältesten Zeiten des Indertums zurückzugehen -, da hat sich erhalten, was in älteren Zeiten Erkenntnisprinzip war. Da nannte man ganz anderes den Weg zur Erkenntnis als heute. In jenen älteren Zeiten - sogar die Sprachgeschichte kann das erhärten - kam sich der Mensch, indem er auf sich zurückschaute, nicht so vor wie der heutige Mensch, der heutige Mensch mit seinem ganz fest in sich durch das Denken erfaßten Selbstbewußtsein auf der einen Seite und der Erfassung des Mechanistischen durch die Beobachtung auf der anderen Seite. So hätte sich zum Beispiel der Mensch des Orients nicht fühlen können. Wie gesagt, selbst die Sprachgeschichte kann das bezeugen. Der Mensch des Orients fühlte sich zunächst als atmender Mensch, als atmendes Wesen. Ein Atmer, das war ihm der Mensch. Und der Atmungsprozeß war dasjenige, auf das der Mensch vorzugsweise in der Selbsterkenntnis, der Selbstanschauung hinblickte. Sogar die Unsterblichkeit brachte er mit dem Atmungsprozeß zusammen: Eine Art Ausatmung des Seelischen war der Eintritt des Todes. Der Mensch ein Atmer! Warum fühlte man in dieser älteren Seelenverfassung den Menschen als ein Atmungswesen? Weil man wirklich im Atmungsprozeß, der nicht so im Unbewußten verlief wie heute, im Ein- und Ausatmen das Leben verspürte. Die Vibrationen, den Rhythmus des Lebens, man fühlte sie im Atmen. Das Atmen war etwas, was man so spürte, wie man heute Hunger und Durst spürt. Aber es war ein fortwährendes Spüren im Wachzustand, dieser Atmungsprozeß. Und sah man mit den Augen, dann wußte man: jetzt geht der Atmungsvorgang bis in den Kopf, bis in das Auge. Das Schauen empfand man so, daß es durchströmt war von der Atembewegung. Ebenso eine Willensregung. Das Handausstrecken empfand man so, als ob es etwas wäre, was sich anschließt an die Atmungsbewegungen. Eine Ausbreitung des Atmens in den ganzen Leib spürte man als inneren Lebensprozeß. Sowohl die mehr theoretische Anschauung der Außenwelt durch die Sinne, sie fühlte man als beseelt vom Atem, wie man die Willensregungen als beseelt vom Atem fühlte. Der Mensch fühlte sich als ein Atmungswesen. Und weil er sich als ein Atmungswesen fühlte, weil er hätte sagen können, mein Atem wird so und so modifiziert, indem ich durch meine Augen sehe, durch meine Ohren höre, indem ich Wärmewirkungen empfange, weil er so überall in den Sinnesempfindungen differenzierte, modifizierte, metamorphosierte, verfeinerte Atmungsvorgänge erblickte, so war für ihn auch der Erkenntnisweg eine regelmäßige Ausbildung des Atmungsprozesses. Und diese war für jene älteren Epochen der menschlichen Erkenntnisentwickelung dasselbe, was heute unser Studieren ist an der Hochschule. Heute studieren wir in anderer Art. Dazumal, wenn man religiöse Befriedigung, wenn man Erkenntnisse erlangen wollte, studierte man, indem man den Atmungsprozeß gesetzmäßig umbildete; indem man, mit anderen Worten, das ausbildete, was später das Joga- Atmen, die Joga-Übung genannt wurde. Und was wurde da ausgebildet? Wenn man verfolgt, wozu nun derjenige gekommen ist, der das Joga-Atmen übte, um hinaufzukommen zu höheren Erkenntnis stufen, dann findet man etwas Merkwürdiges. Diejenigen, die so durch Joga- Übungen Gelehrte geworden waren - der Ausdruck ist uneigentlich auf diese älteren Verhältnisse angewandt, aber man kann vielleicht so sagen, und auch das Studium dauerte etwa so lange, wie unser Universitätsstudium dauert -, diejenigen, die auf diese Weise Gelehrte geworden waren, hatten in dieser Erkenntnis etwas in ihrer Seelen Verfassung ergriffen, was in einer späteren Zeit, zum Beispiel in der griechisch-römischen Zeit, als Ideenwelt angesehen worden ist und nunmehr wie von selbst da war; so da war in der menschlichen Seelenverfassung, daß man kein Joga mehr brauchte. Das ist ja das Interessante, daß dasjenige, wonach der Mensch in einer früheren Epoche mit allen möglichen Übungen streben muß, in späteren Epochen von selbst da ist in der Entwickelung. Da bedeutet es nicht mehr dasjenige, was es früher bedeutet hat. Als Sokrates, als Plato wirkten, bedeutete die Philosophie eines Plato, eines Sokrates nicht mehr dasselbe, was es für die alten Jogaschüler oder Jogalehrer bedeutet hätte, wenn sie zu den sokratischen oder platonischen Wahrheiten gekommen wären. Der Jogaschüler war durch sein Joga-Atmen nicht genau so organisiert, aber er war in der Seelenverfassung, in der Plato, Aristoteles oder Scotus Erigena waren. So sehen wir dasjenige, was in den ältesten Zeiten getrieben worden ist als geregelte Übungen des Atmungsprozesses, und wir sehen, daß eine gewisse anschauliche Begriffswelt das Ergebnis dieses Erkenntnispfades war. Man bekommt eigentlich von dem, was in der späteren Zeit in Heraklit, in Parmenides, in Anaxagoras lebte, eine richtige Vorstellung, wenn man sich sagt: Das ist dasjenige, was in diesem Zeitalter den Menschen als selbstverständlich gegeben war, und was in noch älteren Zeiten durch Joga erreicht wurde. Übungen waren es immer, wodurch man für ein Zeitalter die höheren Erkenntnisse anstrebte. So war das Anschauen der Welt in späteren Epochen so vorhanden, daß man nun nicht mehr den Atem wahrnahm, indem man sich selbst beschaute, sondern daß man wahrnahm, wie der Grieche wahrnahm. Ich habe darüber in meinen «Rätseln der Philosophie» Näheres ausgeführt. Da war es noch so, daß man sich nicht abgesonderte Gedanken über die Welt machte, sondern die Ideen waren mit den Sinneserlebnissen eine Einheit. Man sah seine Gedanken draußen, wie man Rot oder Blau draußen sah, wie man Cis, G, H hörte. Die Gedanken waren draußen in der Welt. Die griechische Weltanschauung versteht nur, wer das weiß. Aber man nahm nur Geist von Sinneswahrnehmungen durchdrungen, oder Sinneswahrnehmungen von Geist durchdrungen jetzt wahr, nicht mehr das Differenzierte des Atmungsprozesses. Wiederum aber strebte nun die Menschheit danach, auf all denjenigen Gebieten, wo man eben nach höheren Erkenntnissen strebte, eine höhere Stufe des Erkennens zu erreichen. Und diese Stufe wurde wiederum durch Übungen erreicht. Man hat ja gerade über die Zeit des ersten Mittelalters, über das Geistesleben des ersten Mittelalters heute ziemlich unbestimmte Vorstellungen. Allein ein so abstraktes Lernen, wie wir es heute tun, war dasjenige nicht, was ein mittelalterlicher Student trieb. Er sollte auch Übungen machen, und das gewöhnliche Lernen war auch mit Übungenmachen verbunden. Es war eine innerliche Praxis und Praktik, die durchzumachen war; allerdings nicht in einer so robusten Weise wie die Jogapraktik des Atmens, sondern es war eine schon mehr nach innen verlegte Praxis, aber doch eine Praxis. Ein Niederschlag, der heute wenig verstanden wird, hat sich erhalten in dem, was man im Mittelalter die sieben freien Künste nannte, die derjenige durchmachen mußte, der auf eine höhere Erkenntnis Anspruch machte.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":1084,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/82/1922-04-08/p020"},{"locus":"GA 82/1922-04-08/p021","passage_number":21,"text":"Grammatik, das, was die praktische Handhabe der Sprache ist, war damit gemeint. Die Rhetorik, die nun nicht nur die Handhabung, sondern die schöne Handhabung der Sprache bedeutete. Die Dialektik, die Handhabung der Sprache von der inneren Kraft des Denkens aus. Und hatte man diese drei durchgemacht in innerer Praxis als Übungen, dann kam die Arithmetik, wiederum nicht unsere abstrakte Arithmetik, sondern jene Arithmetik, die sich einlebte in die Dinge, die ein deutliches Bewußtsein davon hatte, daß der Mensch alles innerlich bildet. Und so lernte man innerlich praktizierend Geometrie. Die Geometrie wurde ganz als mit dem Menschen verwoben praktisch zu einem Eigentum des Menschen gemacht, zu seiner Handhabe gemacht. Dann mündete das Ganze ein in das, was man Astronomie nannte. Der Mensch gliederte sein Wesen in den Kosmos ein. Er lernte erkennen, wie sich sein Haupt auf den Kosmos bezieht, wie seine Lunge, sein Herz ein Ergebnis des Kosmos ist. Man hatte nicht eine vom Menschen abgezogene Astronomie, sondern eine Astronomie, in der der Mensch voll darinnenstand. Und dann lernte man das Weben und Walten des göttlichen Wesens, das die Welt durchwebt und durchwellt, kennen in der siebenten Stufe, die man mit Musik bezeichnete, was aber nicht die heutige Musik ist, sondern ein höheres, lebendiges Ausbilden desjenigen, was mehr gedanklich ausgebildet war in der Astronomie. So übte der Mensch in einer späteren Zeit sich in innerlicher Praxis. Dasjenige, was früher Atmungsübungen waren, war jetzt mehr eine innerliche Seelenpraxis.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":237,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/82/1922-04-08/p021"},{"locus":"GA 82/1922-04-08/p022","passage_number":22,"text":"Und wozu kam man? Man kam allmählich dazu im Laufe der menschlichen Zivilisationsgeschichte, den Gedanken in Absonderung zu haben von der Sinneswahrnehmung. Das mußte erst errungen werden. Die Griechen haben den Gedanken noch in der Welt gesehen, wie man Farben und Töne sieht. Daß der Gedanke von uns als etwas von uns Erzeugtes erfaßt wird, als etwas, was nicht darinnensteckt in den Dingen, daß das so empfunden wurde in der Seelenverfassung und daß es heute so empfunden werden kann, das ist ein Ergebnis des Übens in der Grammatik, Rhetorik und so weiter bis zur Musik. Dadurch wurde der Gedanke losgelöst von den Dingen. Man lernte frei im Gedanken sich bewegen. Dadurch wurde endlich dasjenige herbeigeführt, was uns nun wiederum selbstverständlich ist, was wir heute haben ohne diese Übungen, was wir heute vorfinden, wenn wir an unsere Schulen kommen, was geboten wird in den einzelnen Wissenschaften, wie es gestern geschildert wurde. Und gerade so, wie man in den früheren Zeitaltern durch Übungen hat vorwärtskommen sollen - in älteren Zeiten durch die Joga-Atmungsübungen, später durch die Übungen, die von der Grammatik bis zur Musik liefen, so daß man aus den Joga-Atmungsübungen als Selbstverständlichkeit bekam die griechisch-lateinisehe Weltauffassung und aus den Übungen, die auf dem Wege von der Grammatik bis zur Musik gingen, den heutigen Wissenschaftsstandpunkt -, so kann das wiederum fortgesetzt werden, und zwar am besten, wenn man von dem Sichersten ausgeht, von der Mathematik, die ja heute als das Sicherste anerkannt wird. Wahr ist es, so verwunderlich es auch jenem Schriftsteller war, als ich sagte: An der synthetischen Geometrie habe ich hauptsächlich mir zum Bewußtsein gebracht den Hellseherprozeß. Es ist natürlich nicht so, daß derjenige, der synthetische Geometrie studiert hat, ein Hellseher ist, aber veranschaulichen kann man den Prozeß auf diese Weise. So verwunderlich es diesem Schriftsteller war, nicht erzählt zu bekommen, nicht zu hören zu bekommen etwas, was von solchen Leuten, die wahrsagen, erzählt wird, so ist es doch so, daß von demjenigen, worauf heute die Wissenschaft fest steht, Anthroposophie ausgeht, um es weiterzuführen; um gerade dasjenige, was als sichere Wissenschaft vorliegt, von dieser Grundlage aus, die sie selbst gelegt hat, nun weiter in die Gebiete des Übersinnlichen hineinzuführen. Wir müssen daher den Prozeß noch weiter verinnerlichen. Und ein noch mehr verinnerlichter Prozeß ist dasjenige, was ich als den Weg in die heutige hellsichtige Forschung schildern mußte in meinen Büchern «Geheimwissenschaft» und «Wie erlangt man Erkenntnisse der höheren Welten?». Aber gerade eine solche Geschichtsbetrachtung, wie ich sie angeführt habe, kann Ihnen zeigen, daß derjenige, der heute vollbewußt in der Anthroposophie drinnensteht, dieses Bewußtsein herholt aus einem Drinnenstehen im Gange der Menschheitsentwickelung; daß er nicht aus irgendeiner subjektiven Vorliebe oder Sympathie heraus behauptet: wir haben heute nötig, Übungen vorzunehmen, um fortzusetzen den Gang, der die Menschheit bis zum gegenwärtigen Standpunkte gebracht hat -, sondern daß er weiß, wie der Gang bis hierher war und wie er sich fortsetzen muß. Dieses historische Bewußtsein, dieses Bewußtsein vom Drinnenstehen im ganzen Menschheitsprozeß, das ist dasjenige, was dazukommt zu der Einsicht, die einem wird, wenn man innerlich, nicht äußerlich, den heutigen Wissenschaftsgeist in seine Seelenverfassung aufnimmt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":511,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/82/1922-04-08/p022"}],"beads":[{"from":[38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47],"to":[20,21],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[48,49,50],"to":[22],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers).","uncovered":[37]}}