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And then, when sensory perceptions, emotional experiences, will impulses or desires are added to thinking when fully awake, where the soul must fully submerge into the physical body, where everything in the physical body must be utilized by the soul, then what would otherwise would otherwise be mere fleeting thoughts, as long as the processes take place only in the airy substance of the body, can, as it were, condense into the ability to remember and into that which, as thoughts, as mental images, connects with sensory perception or emotional experiences or volitional impulses.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"6. 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Wir heben zunächst, wie ich gestern auseinandergesetzt habe, den denkenden Teil unseres Seelenwesens aus der finsteren Ungewißheit heraus, indem dieser denkende Teil untertaucht in den physischen Leib. Von dem physischen Leibe nimmt dieser denkende Teil zunächst eigentlich nur dasjenige in Anspruch als eigentlich denkerische Kraft, was in diesem physischen Leibe an luftartiger Substanz vorhanden ist. 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