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One of these people even wrote a book, which was admired by many, about “empirical teleology.” He tried to show that mere causality is not enough, that one can also determine a certain purpose in natural phenomena, purely empirically. People felt very exalted about the mere mechanism, which has a certain justification in external natural science, by introducing a kind of teleology in this way.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"6. Anthroposophy and Agnosticism","site_heading":null,"date":"1922-04-12","location":null,"word_count":174,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/82/1922-04-12/p027","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2025","book_title":"So That Man may Become Fully Human","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA082/English/SOL2025/19220412p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Einer von diesen Leuten hat sogar ein Buch geschrieben, das von vielen bewundert worden ist, über «Empirische Teleologie». Er versucht nachzuweisen, daß man mit der bloßen Kausalität nicht auskommt, daß man eine gewisse Zielsetzung auch in den Naturerscheinungen rein empirisch feststellen könne. 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