{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 82/1922-04-12/p028","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"I said to people at the time, including this Nikolaus Cossmann: just look at a clock. This clock can be explained completely mechanistically when it is in front of you. There is nothing there that causes us to assume little demons inside that make the wheels turn or anything like that. Any nebulous mysticism is excluded if you just look at the thing. I strictly held the view that the world of phenomena must be explained from itself. All interpretation and carrying in of teleology and the like is harmful. But the clock was made by a clockmaker. I will not get to know the clockmaker from the clock, but I can get to know him as a person. I choose methods other than analyzing the clock to get to know the clockmaker. I seek him out, perhaps in a social context, somewhere other than his shop. - At the moment when one is clear about the fact that the external world is to be grasped phenomenally, at that moment one has not, so to speak, demystified it, but one has shown the necessity of seeking this spirit, this supersensible, on other paths, through other means and methods of knowledge. And these are precisely the ones I have described. They must be added to the phenomenalist methods of knowledge.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"6. 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Ich wähle andere Methoden als die Analyse der Uhr, um mit dem Uhrmacher bekannt zu werden. Ich suche ihn auf, vielleicht im sozialen Zusammenhang, anderswo als in seinem Laden. - In dem Augenblick, wo man sich klar ist darüber, daß die äußere Welt phänomenalistisch zu erfassen ist, in dem Augenblick hat man sie nicht etwa entgeistigt, aber man hat die Notwendigkeit gezeigt, diesen Geist, dieses Übersinnliche auf anderen Wegen zu suchen, durch andere Erkenntnismittel und andere Erkenntnismethoden. Und das sind eben diejenigen, die ich geschildert habe. 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