{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 82/1922-04-12/p034","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"But anyone who has met people who have wrestled with worldviews not in theory but in every fiber of their emotional life knows what the tendency towards phenomenalism, which has agnosticism in its wake, can mean for today's people. I have met people who say to themselves: If we grasp the world with today's scientific means, we see only natural processes in it. We can hypothetically trace it back to a primeval nebula or something similar, which is the event of our earth. We can follow it to the end, to the heat death or something similar. But then we see how we can develop the moral world within us for a long time - it is only a haze and fog that rises above the only real thing, which begins with the primeval nebula and ends with the heat death. And after the heat death there will be the great field of corpses for all that not only lived on earth, but also what strove there for moral impulses, for religious inwardness. All this will be buried. Certainly, not many people feel this discrepancy for their own spiritual life, but there are people who feel it. I have met them, with all the inner tragedy that made them doubt not only the reality of what could be grasped in religious terms, but also the reality of a moral world order. They are haze and mist, rising from the merely externally phenomenal facts.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"6. 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Aber da sehen wir, wie wir uns lange in unserem Inneren ausbilden können die moralische Welt - sie ist doch nur Dunst und Nebel, der aufsteigt über dem einzig Realen, das mit dem Urnebel beginnt, mit dem Wärmetod endet. Und nach dem Wärmetod wird da sein das große Leichenfeld für alles dasjenige nicht nur, was auf der Erde gelebt hat, sondern auch was dort gestrebt hat nach moralischen Impulsen, nach religiöser Innerlichkeit. Das alles wird begraben sein. - Gewiß, nicht viele Menschen fühlen für ihr eigenes seelisches Leben diese Diskrepanz, aber es gibt Menschen, die das fühlen. Ich habe sie kennengelernt mit all der inneren Tragik, die sie zweifeln ließ an der Realität nicht nur eines religiös Erfaßbaren, an der Realität auch einer moralischen Weltordnung. 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