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The other, to which I have already drawn attention in the last few days, can be described by saying: any view of life and the world that is to be taken seriously today must not lose itself in nebulous mysticism. It is a fact that even noble minds at the present time, observing that natural science is limited and cannot provide us with a springboard into the spiritual world, throw themselves into the arms of mysticism, especially the older forms of humanity's mystical endeavour. Yet in face of the other kinds of knowledge man requires* today, this certainly cannot be the right way. Mysticism seeks, by looking within man, to reach the actual foundations of existence. But once again, human knowledge is limited when it comes to looking within man. Assuming that man were capable of looking into himself without limit, to the point where the deepest essence of human nature is manifest, where man is in touch with the eternal springs of existence and links his personal existence with that of the cosmos: what would he then have to do without?—Those who gain great inner satisfaction from mysticism often summon up the most varied things from within themselves. I have already indicated that what is brought up in this way ultimately turns out, on closer examination by a true student of the soul, to rest on some external observation. This observation sinks into subconscious depths, is permeated by feeling and will and organic process, and then appears again in an altered form. Anything observed can undergo a transformation or metamorphosis so great that the mystic will believe he is drawing from the depths of his soul something that must demonstrate the eternal foundations of the soul itself. Even such outstanding mystics as Meister Eckhart or Johannes Tauler are not completely free from the error that creeps in when we mistake altered concepts of ordinary consciousness for independent revelations of the human soul.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":346,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/83/1922-06-05/p010","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1922-06-05","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 83/1922-06-05/p010","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/83/1922-06-05/p010"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"length_check":{"de_words":371,"en_words":346,"ratio":0.93,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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He would have to do without something that is essential for the well-ordered existence of our soul: a reliable memory.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":54,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/83/1922-06-05/p011","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1922-06-05","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 83/1922-06-05/p011","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/83/1922-06-05/p011"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. The German original passage(s) above are the edition-invariant anchor — fetch them (lang='de') to verify wording before quoting across editions."},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"B. A. 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Ought we, then, to break through this reflecting device in order to reach what lies behind the mirror?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":158,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/83/1922-06-05/p012","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1922-06-05","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 83/1922-06-05/p012","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/83/1922-06-05/p012"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","reader"],"reader_german":["GA 83/1922-06-05/p012"],"length_check":{"de_words":172,"en_words":158,"ratio":0.92,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. The German original passage(s) above are the edition-invariant anchor — fetch them (lang='de') to verify wording before quoting across editions."},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"B. A. 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Here again, we must look at the whole man, as he needs to be if he is to possess a memory, in order to see that mysticism is impossible for ordinary consciousness.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":153,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/83/1922-06-05/p013","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1922-06-05","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 83/1922-06-05/p013","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/83/1922-06-05/p013"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"length_check":{"de_words":160,"en_words":153,"ratio":0.96,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. The German original passage(s) above are the edition-invariant anchor — fetch them (lang='de') to verify wording before quoting across editions."},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"B. A. 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Es ist schon einmal so, daß auch edle Geister der heutigen Zeit, indem sie sehen, wie der Naturwissenschaft Grenzen gezogen sind und von ihr aus nicht der Aufschwung in die geistige Welt zu erhalten ist, sich der Mystik, besonders älteren Formen des mystischen Strebens der Menschheit, in die Arme werfen. Das kann aber gegenüber den anderen Erkenntnisanforderungen, die der Mensch heute haben muß, durchaus nicht der rechte Weg sein. Denn Mystik will durch Hineinschauen in das menschliche Innere zu den eigentlichen Untergründen des Daseins kommen. Aber gerade in bezug auf dieses Hineinschauen in das menschliche Innere sind nun wiederum der menschlichen Erkenntnis Grenzen gezogen. Nehmen wir an, der Mensch wäre in der Lage, in sein Inneres ohne Grenze einfach hineinzuschauen, hineinzuschauen bis dahin, wo sich das tiefste Wesen der menschlichen Natur offenbart, wo der Mensch in Verbindung steht mit den ewigen Quellen des Daseins, wo er sein eigenes individuelles Dasein an das kosmische angliedert. Was könnte dann der Mensch wiederum nicht haben? Nun, diejenigen, die gerade eine oftmals große innere Befriedigung an der Mystik haben, holen ja aus ihrem Innern das Mannigfaltigste heraus. Ich habe schon darauf aufmerksam gemacht, daß dasjenige, was so aus dem menschlichen Innern herausgeholt wird, sich bei einem genaueren Zusehen für den wirklichen Seelenkenner doch zuletzt entpuppt als etwas, was auf irgendeiner Außenbeobachtung beruht, dann in unterbewußte Untergründe untergetaucht ist, von Gefühl und Wille und organischem Geschehen durchsetzt worden ist und dann in veränderter Gestalt wieder heraufkommt. Irgend etwas, was wir beobachten, kann eine solche Umwandlung, eine solche Metamorphose erfahren, daß der Mystiker glaubt, er hole aus den Tiefen seiner Seele etwas herauf, was zeigen muß, wie die ewigen Gründe der Seele selber sind. Selbst solche bedeutsamen Mystiker wie der Meister Eckhardt oder Johannes Tauler sind nicht im vollen Sinne freizusprechen von dem Irrtum, der unterläuft, indem man veränderte Vorstellungen des gewöhnlichen Bewußtseins für selbständige Offenbarungen der menschlichen Seele hält.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":371,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/83/1922-06-05/p010"},{"locus":"GA 83/1922-06-05/p011","passage_number":11,"text":"Dadurch aber, daß man diesen Tatbestand unbefangen beobachtet, wird man darauf geführt, die Frage beantworten zu können: Was könnte der Mensch nicht haben, wenn er restlos für das gewöhnliche Bewußtsein in jedem Augenblick in sein Inneres hineinschauen könnte? Er könnte nicht haben, was wir zum vollen, zum geordneten Bestand unseres seelischen Innenwesens brauchen: ein innerlich gesetzmäßiges Erinnerungsvermögen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":57,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/83/1922-06-05/p011"},{"locus":"GA 83/1922-06-05/p012","passage_number":12,"text":"Denn wie stellt sich gerade gegenüber den mystischen Ansprüchen dieses Erinnerungsvermögen dar? Ich könnte das, was ich jetzt mit ein paar populären Strichen gebe, auch in sehr wissenschaftlicher Form geben. Allein es ist nur eine Verständigung darüber notwendig, und die kann auch in der populären Form gegeben werden. Indem wir die Außenwelt beobachten und dasjenige, was wir zunächst als ganzer Mensch erleben, innerlich so verwandeln, daß es später wieder als Erinnerungsvorstellungen in uns auftauchen kann, treffen wir eigentlich mit dem seelischen Ergebnis unserer Außenbeobachtung in unserem Innern auf so etwas wie eine Art inneren Spiegel. Es ist ein Vergleich, aber es ist zugleich mehr als ein Vergleich. Was von außen Eindrücke auf uns macht, das darf uns nicht so anregen, daß wir mit diesen Eindrücken restlos untertauchen in unser tiefstes Innere. Es muß möglich sein, daß das, was uns von außen erregt, zurückgeworfen werden kann. Unser Organismus, unser menschliches Wesen muß sich wie ein Spiegelungsapparat verhalten. Und sollen wir diesen Spiegelungsapparat durchstoßen, um zu dem zu kommen, was hinter dem Spiegel ist?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":172,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/83/1922-06-05/p012"},{"locus":"GA 83/1922-06-05/p013","passage_number":13,"text":"Das strebt eigentlich, ohne daß er es weiß, der Mystiker an. Aber wir brauchen unser regelmäßiges, geordnetes Gedächtnis. Wenn es nur irgendwie unterbrochen ist bis zu dem Zeitpunkt, bis zu dem wir uns zurückerinnern in unserer Kindheit, dann verfallen wir in seelisch krankhafte Zustände. Der Mensch muß so veranlagt sein, daß er das, was er von außen her erlebt, aufhalten kann. Er kann also nicht so veranlagt sein, daß er unmittelbar hinuntertaucht in sein tiefstes Inneres. Wenn wir den mystischen Versuch unternehmen, ohne weiteres mit dem gewöhnlichen Bewußtsein in unser tiefstes Inneres hinunterzutauchen, so tauchen wir eben nur bis zu dem Spiegelungsapparat. Und es ist mit Recht, um unserer Menschheit willen mit Recht, daß das die Vorstellungen heraufleuchten, die wir von außen aufgenommen haben. Wiederum müssen wir den ganzen Menschen ins Auge fassen, wie er sein muß als erinnerungsfähiges Wesen, wenn wir uns klar darüber sein wollen, daß die Mystik, wie sie erstrebt wird, dem gewöhnlichen Bewußtsein nicht möglich ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":160,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/83/1922-06-05/p013"}],"beads":[{"from":[10],"to":[10],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[11],"to":[11],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[12],"to":[12],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[13],"to":[13],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}