{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 83/1922-06-05/p027","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"The first discovery we make is as follows: what the mystic is angling for in his clouded waters turn out, ultimately, to be transformed memories; but they often contain an admixture of something produced by an organic activity. He doesn't know this, of course. He believes that he is piercing the internal mirror that underlies memory. He is not piercing it. The processes of our organic being beat like waves upon the other side of the mirror. The mystic is not aware of what is really going on: he is only aware of a change in the memories that are reflected. Without becoming guilty of philistinism in the process, we are forced to reduce much that is beautiful, poetic, mystical, to prose and say: much that this or that mystic has drawn up from his soul in this way is not the expression of spiritual existence, but only a consequence of the surge of inner organic processes. Wonderful mystical accounts of ancient and recent times—from which those who take pleasure in such things can gain an extraordinarily poetic impression—are in the last analysis, for anyone who can see things objectively, no more than the expression of inner processes in human nature itself. It seems philistine to have to say: something mystical makes its appearance; it strikes us as poetic, and yet to anyone who understands, it represents the impact of certain vital processes on the memories. For the serious seeker after knowledge, it does not become entirely valueless on that account. For the truth in anything that is said does not reside in the way in which it is presented, which may be agreeable to limited minds, but rather in the fact that a genuine attempt is being made to get nearer to the root of the matter.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"5. Anthroposophy and Cosmology","site_heading":null,"date":"1922-06-05","location":null,"word_count":298,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/83/1922-06-05/p027","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"B. A. 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Man muß, ohne sich dadurch etwa der Philistrosität schuldig zu machen, schon manches Schöne, Poetische, Mystische ins Prosaische verzerren und sagen: Gar manches, was dieser oder jener Mystiker auf diese Weise aus seinem Seelischen hervorgeholt hat, ist nicht irgendwie ein Ausdruck geistigen Daseins, sondern es ist nur — auf die Weise, wie ich es geschildert habe —- ein Ergebnis des Wogens der inneren organischen Vorgänge. Wunderbare mystische Darstellungen älterer und neuerer Zeit — die an solchem ein Wohlgefallen haben, können einen außerordentlich poetischen Eindruck haben —sind im Grunde genommen für den, der unbefangen die Dinge zu durchschauen vermag, nichts anderes als der Ausdruck innerer Vorgänge in der Menschennatur selber. Es erscheint philiströs, wenn man sagen muß: Da tritt etwas Mystisches auf, es kommt einem poetisch vor und ist dennoch für den, der die Sache durchschauen kann, die Hineinwirkung gewisser Lebensprozesse in die Erinnerungsvorstellungen. Für den, der im Ernst erkennen will, wird die Sache dadurch nicht etwa wertlos. Denn nicht dadurch, daß irgend etwas für das befangene Gemüt in wohlgefälliger Weise dargestellt ist, ist es eine Wahrheit, sondern dadurch daß man nach und nach versucht, wirklich auf den Grund der Dinge zu kommen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":281,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/83/1922-06-05/p026"}],"english":["GA 83/1922-06-05/p027"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":281,"en_words":298,"ratio":1.06,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.98,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7124,"original_word_count":7286,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"B. A. 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