{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 84/1923-04-21/p008","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Thus on the other side of existence, in our thoughts and feelings, we lead a life which is not immediately felt as real; yet out of these thoughts and emotions emerges man's moral world, the world of moral impulses. To regard the world like this, in its duality—on the one hand all that is grossly material and concrete and, to begin with, represents reality, and on the other, the less real thoughts and feelings which contain the moral impulses—this has something depressing about it for one who, confronted by science's assertion of the conservation of matter and energy, finds a kind of eternity being attributed to what is externally real, while that which arises out of thoughts and feelings as the moral World-Order appears to be doomed to perish in a vast graveyard of material existence—a conception to which the hypothetical conclusions drawn from the phenomena of nature must inescapably lead. Thus ordinary consciousness is faced with this duality: on the one hand the material world, on the other the moral-spiritual world, and man lives in this world, or rather in both the worlds which have so little to do with one another. With one side of his being man is given over to the material world in which the nutritive processes operate and in which, from these processes, his desires rise up where his senses receive impressions and his intellect co-ordinates these impressions. He is conscious of belonging to this material world, but he is also conscious of the fact that his dignity as a human being can only be maintained if the moral-spiritual impulses which flow from the thoughts and feelings, whose reality is in dispute, have real meaning for him. And in his ordinary consciousness man here finds himself faced with the problem of imbuing his physical body, through which he is membered into the physical world, with qualities which for him must contain the element of unreality. In external nature he can discover nothing that is governed by the principle of moral-spiritual impulses. There he sees the stones subject to inexorable laws, containing nothing of moral-spiritual impulses. He observes the plants in their gentle tranquillity, how in unfolding their blossoms they respond to the neutral light and warmth of the sun, and here again he can find no trace of moral impulses entering into the sun's warmth and light as they awaken the plants to life.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"II. The Physical World and the Moral-Spiritual Impulses","site_heading":null,"date":"1923-04-21","location":null,"word_count":400,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/84/1923-04-21/p008","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"LZ0290","book_title":"The Spiritual Development of Man","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA084/English/LZ0290/19230421p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. Do not attribute this English to a translator, and do not borrow a credit from another lecture of the volume. 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Wenn der Mensch die Welt in ihrer Zweiheit so anschaut — einmal das derb Materiell-Konkrete, was für ihn zunächst das Wirkliche ist, dann die in ihrer Wirklichkeit zweifelhaften Gedanken und Empfindungen, welche die moralischen Impulse enthalten —, so hat es für ihn etwas, man möchte sagen, Bedrückendes, wenn er nun hinschaut und naturwissenschaftlich bewiesen findet, daß durch die Erhaltung von Materie und Kraft das äußerlich Wirkliche eine gewisse Ewigkeit hat, daß aber das, was sich als moralische Weltordnung heraushebt aus den bloßen Gedanken und Empfindungen, dann vernichtet wird innerhalb eines gewissen großen Friedhofes im materiellen Dasein, der ja aus der hypothetischen Verfolgung der Naturerscheinungen unbedingt hervorgeht. Es steht vor dem gewöhnlichen Bewußtsein eben als eine Zweiheit da die materielle Welt auf der einen Seite, die moralisch-geistige Welt auf der andern Seite, und der Mensch steht innerhalb dieser Welt, oder eigentlich dieser zwei Welten, die so wenig miteinander zu tun haben. Er steht darinnen, er ist mit der einen Seite seines Wesens übergeben der materiellen Welt, in welcher seine Ernährungsvorgänge vor sich gehen, in welcher aus den Ernährungsvorgängen heraus sich seine Triebe erheben, in welcher seine Sinne Eindrücke empfangen, in welcher sein Verstand die Sinneseindrücke kombiniert. Der Mensch wird sich bewußt, daß er dieser materiellen Welt angehört, er wird sich aber auch bewußt, daß seine Menschenwürde nur erfüllt ist, wenn für ihn eine reale Bedeutung hat, was an moralisch-geistigen Impulsen ihm aus den in bezug auf ihre Wirklichkeit strittigen Gedanken und Empfindungen erfließt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":285,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/84/1923-04-21/p007"},{"locus":"GA 84/1923-04-21/p008","passage_number":8,"text":"Da tritt an den Menschen des gewöhnlichen Bewußtseins die Forderung heran, den physischen Körper, durch den er in die physische Welt eingegliedert ist, zu erfüllen mit dem, dessen Wirklichkeit ihm zweifelhaft erscheinen muß. Er sieht, wie in der äußeren Natur nirgends zur Herrschaft gelangt, was in den Impulsen des Moralisch-Geistigen gegeben ist. Da sieht er die Steine, die nach ehernen Gesetzen ihre Vorgänge bewirken, da fließt in dieses Geschehen innerhalb der mineralischen Welt nichts von den moralisch-geistigen Impulsen hinein. Da sieht er die Pflanzenwelt in ihrer sanften Stille, er sieht sie zu ihrem blühenden Dasein aufgerufen durch das neutrale Sonnenlicht und die neutrale Sonnenwärme, und er wird auch da nicht gewahr, wie die moralischen Impulse irgendwie hineinströmen sollen in die weckende Wärme der Sonne, in das weckende Licht der Sonne, das die Pflanzendecke der Erde zur Entfaltung bringt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":138,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/84/1923-04-21/p008"}],"english":["GA 84/1923-04-21/p008"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":423,"en_words":400,"ratio":0.95,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","reader"],"reader_german":["GA 84/1923-04-21/p007","GA 84/1923-04-21/p008"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.02,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5374,"original_word_count":5277,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"LZ0290","book_title":"The Spiritual Development of Man","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA084/English/LZ0290/19230421p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. 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