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We all know that in the Gospel of John a passage is quoted from which it emerges that the one from whom the messages of the Gospel originate is to be regarded as an eyewitness, as one who was present at the events and knows how to write about them, how to describe them, as one who was chosen to grasp the Master's teachings most deeply.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":112,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/87/1902-02-15/p010","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Ancient Mysteries and Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA087/English/SOL2024/19020215p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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He has written this and we know that this \"testimony is true.\" [May] we find the opportunity, through mystical-theosophical immersion, to [understand] the words of this final passage of John's Gospel in such a way that they show themselves to us in the right light.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":88,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/87/1902-02-15/p011","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Ancient Mysteries and Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA087/English/SOL2024/19020215p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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But in their blood lives the idea of the Messiah, through whom the Jewish people were to regain their power and glory. They have thrown these two things together, and we must definitely keep these two things or currents apart. This work will also show us which passages of the first three Gospels do not have corresponding passages in the Gospel of John.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":210,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/87/1902-02-15/p012","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Ancient Mysteries and Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA087/English/SOL2024/19020215p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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In chapter 24, verses 32-33 of the Gospel of Matthew it says:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":43,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/87/1902-02-15/p013","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Ancient Mysteries and Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA087/English/SOL2024/19020215p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. The translator IS verified for this lecture: its own source names the translator (evidence: the lecture's page, rsarchive's lecture list, or the cover of the book it was published in), and that page's text was matched against this unit (see match_score and source_url). 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So also, when you see all these things, know that the kingdom of God is near.\"","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":40,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/87/1902-02-15/p014","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Ancient Mysteries and Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA087/English/SOL2024/19020215p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. The translator IS verified for this lecture: its own source names the translator (evidence: the lecture's page, rsarchive's lecture list, or the cover of the book it was published in), and that page's text was matched against this unit (see match_score and source_url). 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The parable of the fig tree symbolizes the decline of Judaism and the rise of the new teaching. This passage could easily be taken to mean that a world order, as it lives in the exoteric teaching, would be replaced by a new purely earthly world order. As I said, I believe that individual passages of this kind can be understood in this or that way, more or less deeply. 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Wir alle wissen ja, dass im Johannes-Evangelium angeführt wird ein Passus, aus dem hervorgeht, dass der, von dem die Mitteilungen des Evangeliums herrühren, anzusehen ist als ein Augenzeuge, als einer, der bei den Vorgängen dabei war und über sie zu schreiben, sie zu beschreiben weiß, als einer, der dazu auserkoren war, am tiefsten die Lehren des Meisters zu erfassen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":96,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-02-15/p010"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-02-15/p011","passage_number":11,"text":"Beachten wir den Schluss-Passus: «Was soll aber dieser?»—«So ich will, dass er bleibe, bis ich komme.» — «Dieser Jünger stirbt nicht.» Derjenige, von dem gesagt ist: «Ich will, dass er bleibe, bis ich komme», ist der Jünger, der von diesen Dingen zeugt. Er hat dieses geschrieben und wir wissen, dass dieses «Zeugnis wahrhaftig ist». [Mögen] wir die Möglichkeit finden, durch die mystisch-theosophische Vertiefung die Worte dieses Schluss-Passus des Johannes-Evangeliums so zu [verstehen], dass sie sich uns im rechten Lichte zeigen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":80,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-02-15/p011"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-02-15/p012","passage_number":12,"text":"Wir müssen uns klar sein darüber, dass die drei ersten Evangelien, wenn wir sie durchgehen, uns eine ganz andere Auffassung des Christentums zeigen als das Johannes-Evangelium. Das Johannes-Evangelium zeigt uns eine viel vergeistigtere Auffassung des Christentums. Man kann da nicht anders als zu der Vorstellung kommen, dass die Evangelien hervorgingen aus zwei geistigen Strömungen. Erstens aus dem, was sie gehört haben von dem Meister selbst, um den es sich hier handelt; und zweitens aus dem, was sie damit verknüpft haben. Von Satz zu Satz, von Vers zu Vers, können wir unterscheiden zwischen den wahren, tieferen Lehren, dem geistigen Christentum und dem, was damit verknüpft worden ist. Die drei Verfasser der synoptischen Evangelien erzählen das, was sie vom Meister<>gehört und was sie aus den alten Anschauungen, aus dem Judentum übernommen haben. Sie lebten im traditionellen Judentum und haben herübergezogen von demselben so manche Vorstellung. Manche von diesen Vorstellungen wird ihnen bestätigt. Aber im Blute lebt ihnen die Idee des Messias, durch den das jüdische Volk wieder zu Macht und Herrlichkeit kommen sollte. Diese beiden Dinge haben sie zusammengeworfen, und diese beiden Dinge oder Strömungen müssen wir durchaus auseinanderhalten. Bei dieser Arbeit wird sich uns auch ergeben, zu welchen Stellen der drei ersten Evangelien keine entsprechenden Stellen im Johannes-Evangelium vorhanden sind.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":209,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-02-15/p012"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-02-15/p013","passage_number":13,"text":"Vor allem müssen wir die einzig wichtige Tatsache anführen, dass wir zu verschiedenen Stellen im Matthäus-, Markus- und Lukas-Evangelium keine Stellen im Johannes-Evangelium haben. Im Kapitel 24, Vers 32-33 des Matthäus-Evangeliums steht:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":32,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-02-15/p013"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-02-15/p014","passage_number":14,"text":"> «An dem Feigenbaum lernet ein Gleichnis. Wenn sein Zweig jetzt saftig wird und die Blätter gewinnt, so wisset ihr, dass der Sommer nahe ist. Also auch wisset, wenn ihr das alles seht, dass nahe ist das Reich Gottes.»","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":39,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-02-15/p014"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-02-15/p015","passage_number":15,"text":"Diese Worte, die sich bei den Synoptikern finden, haben keine entsprechende Stelle im Johannes-Evangelium. Das Gleichnis vom Feigenbaum symbolisiert das untergehende Judentum und das Aufgehen der neuen Lehre. Mit dieser Stelle könnte leicht gemeint sein, als wenn eine Weltordnung, wie sie in der exoterischen Lehre lebt, abgelöst würde durch eine neue rein irdische Weltordnung. Wie gesagt, ich meine, einzelne solcher Stellen können in dieser oder jener Weise, mehr oder weniger tief, aufgefasst werden. [Wir dürfen jedoch durchaus voraussetzen, dass in diesen Worten, wenn sie in der richtigen Weise aufgefasst werden, sich der «Meister» von Nazareth verbirgt.] Nehmen wir eine andere Stelle, Matthäus Kap. 16, Vers 28:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":106,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-02-15/p015"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-02-15/p016","passage_number":16,"text":"> «Wahrlich, ich sage euch, es stehen etliche hier, die nicht schmecken werden den Tod, bis dass sie des Menschen Sohn kommen sehen in seinem Reich.»","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":26,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-02-15/p016"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-02-15/p017","passage_number":17,"text":"Diese Stelle findet sich bei allen drei Synoptikern, aber nicht bei Johannes. Diese Worte werfen ein tief bedeutungsvolles Licht auf das Verhältnis des Johannes-Evangeliums zu den anderen. Johannes wird [von den Jüngern] als derjenige bezeichnet—[nicht] von Jesus selbst -, der nicht stirbt. «Dieser Jünger stirbt nicht.» Jesus sagt aber nicht: «Er stirbt nicht», sondern so: «Ich will, dass er bleibe, bis ich komme.» Johannes war der Liebling Jesu. Er wurde als derjenige angesehen, der nicht stirbt, bevor der Messias gekommen sein wird. Als Johannes also das Evangelium geschrieben hat, da hat er die äuRere Tatsache widerlegt—nicht äußerlich —, aber Johannes ist nicht gestorben, bevor er das Reich Gottes hat kommen sehen. Es hat sich also tatsächlich an Johannes erfüllt, was vorher gesagt worden ist in den früheren Evangelien, wie zum Beispiel bei Lukas:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":133,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-02-15/p017"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-02-15/p018","passage_number":18,"text":"> «Die Kinder der Welt freien und lassen sich freien. Die aber auferstehen, werden weder freien noch sich freien lassen. Sie sind den Engeln gleich und Gottes Kinder.» [Lk 20,34-36]","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":30,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-02-15/p018"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-02-15/p019","passage_number":19,"text":"Dafür gibt es wieder keine Stelle bei Johannes. Johannes wird also als derjenige bezeichnet, der die Auferstehung erlebt, bei der nicht mehr die Rede sein wird von Menschen mit irdischen Körpern, sondern von Menschen, welche Engeln gleich sein werden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":39,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-02-15/p019"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-02-15/p020","passage_number":20,"text":"[Das Ende des Johannes-Evangeliums wurde erst geschrieben, nachdem Johannes sein Evangelium verfasst hatte.] Und das alles klingt wie ein Jubelgesang durch das Evangelium hindurch. Johannes braucht von diesen Prophezeiungen nichts zu berichten, er hatte über ein viel bedeutungsvolleres Ereignis zu berichten. Er hatte die Stunde erlebt, von der gesagt wird, sie werde kommen wie ein Dieb in der Nacht, von der nur der Vater—nach Jesu eigenem Wort—etwas weiß.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":68,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-02-15/p020"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-02-15/p021","passage_number":21,"text":"Johannes hatte nicht zu erzählen von einer Prophetie, sondern von einer Erfahrung. Daher hatte er nur zu beschreiben eine Tatsache. Er brauchte nur zu sagen: Dasjenige, was Jesus vorausgesagt hat, ist an mir in Erfüllung gegangen; ich habe in mir erlebt das neue Reich und die geistige Auferstehung. Er konnte daher sagen, dass das Reich wirklich gekommen ist. 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