{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 87/1902-03-22/p013","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"But first I have to say something in advance. I said that the whole of external nature was regarded as a parable, as was the case with Assyrian-Babylonian or Persian scholars. They had a precise idea of the laws to be observed in the course of the stars. This will also be clear to other circles because you have heard Professor Delitzsch's lecture on \"Babel and the Bible\". I could have started from Asian ideas, you find the same thing everywhere. If science now unearths things of which Theosophy must claim otherwise for other reasons, we will nevertheless see confirmation through the excavations of Babylonian antiquities. One finds the results of the excavations compiled in an easy and fine manner by this Professor Delitzsch. I said that from Oriental priestly religions a part of the views emerged which regarded nature as a parable for the eternal divine. You can understand this if you look at the oriental religions. The Egyptians attached more importance to great monuments and laid them down on the outside, while the Orientals sought the parable more in the [theoretical].","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"20. The Apocalypse","site_heading":null,"date":"1902-03-22","location":null,"word_count":183,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/87/1902-03-22/p013","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Ancient Mysteries and Christianity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA087/English/SOL2024/19020322p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Diese hatten eine genaue Vorstellung von den Gesetzen, die am Laufe der Gestirne zu beobachten sind. Weiteren Kreisen wird das auch einleuchtend sein dadurch, dass der Vortrag von Professor Delitzsch über «Babel und Bibel» zu Ihren Ohren gekommen ist. Ich hätte ja auch von asiatischen Vorstellungen ausgehen können, man findet überall dasselbe. Wenn nun die Wissenschaft Dinge ausgräbt, von denen die Theosophie aus anderen Gründen anderes behaupten muss, so werden wir doch eine Bestätigung sehen durch die Ausgrabungen der babylonischen Altertümer. Man findet in leichter und feiner Weise zusammengestellt die Ergebnisse der Ausgrabungen bei diesem Professor Delitzsch. Ich sagte, aus morgenländischen Priesterreligionen ging ein Teil der Anschauungen hervor, welcher die Natur als Gleichnis für das Ewig-Göttliche ansieht. Man kann das verständlich machen, wenn man sich nach den orientalischen Religionen hinüberbewegt. 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