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The author [of the Apocalypse] was aware of this. He did not want to reproduce anything other than the old mystical mysteries. He says that everything he has read from the starry world has now taken place as a direct experience in the life of an individual personality. What you previously only saw as cosmic-historical events has become the life of an individual person. That is the basic idea of the Apocalypse. We see how the old priestly concepts confront us in all the descriptions: the seven trumpets, the seven seals and so on. In all this we see nothing other than the expression of ancient, long-existing mysteries, and what is presented to us in the Apocalypse is nothing other than the fulfillment of these things in Christianity. At one point I will show how this old teaching is presented to us there and how the new teaching is then brought into connection with it, how the new teaching develops out of the old. I will deal with the earlier chapters later. 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[Gap in the transcript] The seventh trumpet.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":21,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/87/1902-03-22/p023","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1902-03-22","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 87/1902-03-22/p022","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-03-22/p022"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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For it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 003 And I will give unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 004 These are the two olive trees and the torches that stand before the Lord of the earth: 005 And if any man will hurt them, fire shall proceed out of their mouth, and shall devour their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he shall be put to death. 006 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. 007 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war with them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 008 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified. 009 And some of the nations and kindreds and tongues shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not leave their dead bodies in graves. 10th And they that dwell on the earth shall rejoice over them, and shall live well, and shall send gifts one to another: for these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.\" - Being born again is nothing other than being born again in the initiation process. - 11 \"And after three days and a half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon those who saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying to them, 'Come up here! And they ascended into heaven in a cloud, and saw their enemies. 013 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell: and in the earthquake were slain seven thousand names of men: and the rest were afraid, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 014 The second woe is past; behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 015 And the seventh angel sounded, and there were great voices in heaven, saying: The kingdoms of the world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign for ever and ever.\"","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":465,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/87/1902-03-22/p024","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1902-03-22","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 87/1902-03-22/p023","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-03-22/p023"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"length_check":{"de_words":423,"en_words":465,"ratio":1.1,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Es ist nicht zu verstehen, dass die Vorstellungswelt, die Summe der [religiösen] Gefühle schon vorhanden war und wieder auftritt in neuer Gestalt im Christentum. Der Verfasser [der Apokalypse] war sich dessen bewusst. Er wollte nichts anderes wiedergeben als die alten mystischen Geheimnisse. Er sagt, dass alles, was er da aus der Sternenwelt gelesen hat, das hat sich jetzt im Lebensgang einer einzelnen Persönlichkeit als unmittelbares Erlebnis abgespielt. Was ihr früher nur als kosmisch-geschichtlich sich abspielen saht, das ist zum Leben eines einzelnen Menschen geworden. Das ist der Grundgedanke der Apokalypse. Wir sehen, wie die alten Priestervorstellungen uns entgegentreten in den ganzen Beschreibungen: die sieben Posaunen, die sieben Siegel und so weiter. In alledem sehen wir nichts anderes als die Ausprägung uralter, längst vorhandener Mysterieninhalte, und das, was uns in der Apokalypse dargestellt wird, ist nichts anderes, als dass diese Sache im Christentum ihre Erfüllung gefunden hat. An einer Stelle will ich zeigen, wie uns daselbst vorgeführt wird diese alte Lehre und wie dann damit in Zusammenhang gebracht wird die neue Lehre, wie die neue Lehre sich aus der alten herausentwickelt. Die früheren Kapitel werde ich später behandeln. Zuerst die ganze Stelle aus der Mitte heraus.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":231,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-03-22/p021"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-03-22/p022","passage_number":22,"text":"Das 11. Kapitel: Messung des Tempels Gottes. Zwei Zeugen getötet und wieder lebendig. [Lücke in der Mitschrift] Die siebente Posaune.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":20,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-03-22/p022"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-03-22/p023","passage_number":23,"text":"«1. Und es ward mir ein Rohr gegeben, einem Stecken gleich, und er sprach: Stehe auf und miss den Tempel Gottes und den Altar und die darin anbeten. 2. Aber den Vorhof außerhalb des Tempels wirf hinaus und miss ihn nicht. Denn er ist den Heiden gegeben, und die heilige Stadt werden sie zertreten zweiundvierzig Monate. 3. Und ich will meinen zwei Zeugen geben, dass sie sollen weissagen tausendzweihundertsechzig Tage, angetan mit Säcken. 4. Diese sind die zwei Ölbäume und die Fackeln, stehend vor dem Herrn der Erde. 5. Und so jemand sie will schädigen, so geht Feuer aus ihrem Munde und verzehrt ihre Feinde; und so jemand sie will schädigen, der muss also getötet werden. 6. Diese haben Macht, den Himmel zu verschließen, dass es nicht regne in den Tagen ihrer Weissagung, und haben Macht über das Wasser, es zu wandeln in Blut, und zu schlagen die Erde mit allerlei Plage, sooft sie wollen. 7. Und wenn sie ihr Zeugnis geendet haben, so wird das Tier, das aus dem Abgrund aufsteigt, mit ihnen einen Streit halten und wird sie überwinden und wird sie töten. 8. Und ihre Leichname werden liegen auf der Gasse der großen Stadt, die da heißt geistlich Sodom und Ägyptem, da auch ihr Herr gekreuzigt ist. 9. Und es werden etliche von den Völkern und Geschlechtern und Sprachen ihre Leichname sehen drei Tage und einen halben und werden ihre Leichname nicht lassen in Gräber legen. 10. Und die auf Erden wohnen, werden sich freuen über sie und wohlleben und Geschenke untereinander senden; denn diese zwei Propheten quälten die auf Erden wohnten.» - Das Wiedergeborenwerden ist nichts anderes als das Wiedergeborenwerden im Initiationsprozess. - 11. «Und nach drei Tagen und einem halben fuhr in sie der Geist des Lebens von Gott, und sie traten auf ihre Füße; und eine große Furcht fiel über die, so sie sahen. 12. Und sie hörten eine große Stimme vom Himmel zu ihnen sagen: Steiget herauf! Und sie stiegen auf in den Himmel in einer Wolke, und es sahen sie ihre Feinde. 13. Und zu derselben Stunde ward ein großes Erdbeben und der zehnte Teil der Stadt fiel; und wurden getötet in dem Erdbeben siebentausend Namen der Menschen, und die andern erschraken und gaben Ehre dem Gott des Himmels. 14. Das andere Wehe ist dahin; siehe, das dritte Wehe kommt schnell. 15. Und der siebente Engel posaunte; und es wurden große Stimmen im Himmel, die sprachen: Es sind die Reiche der Welt unsers Herrn und seines Christus geworden, under wird regieren von Ewigkeit zu Ewigkeit»","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":423,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-03-22/p023"},{"locus":"GA 87/1902-03-22/p024","passage_number":24,"text":"Es soll hier geschildert werden, dass, während früher nur der einzelne Mensch zugelassen war, jetzt durch Christus allen Menschen die Frohe Botschaft gebracht werden soll.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":25,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/87/1902-03-22/p024"}],"beads":[{"from":[22],"to":[21],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[23],"to":[22],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[24],"to":[23],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[25],"to":[24],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. 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