{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 90a/1904-07-18/p031","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"But this is only clear to the occult researcher; but for him it is quite clear. As is well known, where the German translation has the 'word', the expression 'logos' is found. In the beginning was the logos. So what is the logos? The concept of the logos, as it is meant here, is difficult to understand. It has an ancient origin. Now it is true that the Gospel of John, as it is presented to us, has a strong nuance of Greek writing. But if you examine it closely, you will see on the other hand that the writer of the Gospel of John has kept what it originally was, namely a book written by the disciple whom the Master loved, a book that was supposed to show that this disciple took the mother of Jesus to his home. To understand this, you have to be familiar with the deeper Jewish teachings. You won't find these deeper Jewish teachings among the Pharisees and Sadducees. You are more likely to find them among the Sadducees. But you will find them among a great personality in Alexandria. But you will also find the teachings of the Logos there. However, this word did not originate in Alexandria either. You can follow this word throughout the ages. I would just like to give a few examples of what the people of that time associated with the word logos. As the word is presented to us, it is only a Greekized Hebrew term. Because Plato adopted the logos in his teaching, it was said that he was an Attic-speaking Moses. We should not be surprised that we have preserved the teaching of logos in a somewhat Greek form.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"XLV. 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The translator IS verified for this lecture: its own source names the translator (evidence: the lecture's page, rsarchive's lecture list, or the cover of the book it was published in), and that page's text was matched against this unit (see match_score and source_url). Cite the translator with confidence; attribute the publisher only as probable."},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","edition_basis":null,"is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/90a/1904-07-18/p031"},{"lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/90a/1904-07-18/p031","paragraph_aligned":true}],"record":{"record_type":"listeners_notes","scope":"volume","note":"Written from listeners' notes, summaries, or memory rather than a shorthand transcript. The wording is the note-taker's as much as Steiner's: weigh a single striking phrase here far more cautiously than the same phrase in a stenographic volume, and do not rest an argument on one word.","evidence":"Frühe Vortragsreihen und Einzelvorträge für Mitglieder in Berlin 1903–1904 nach ausführlichen und z.T. fragmentarischen Mitschriften.","evidence_translation":"Early lecture series and single lectures for members in Berlin 1903-1904, from detailed and in part fragmentary listeners' transcripts.","evidence_source":"The publisher's description of the volume, as mirrored on AnthroWiki (GA 90a); the description calls them \"Hörermitschriften\", and the served text carries the note-taker's gap marker \"[Lücke in der Mitschrift]\". The translation is the maintainer's, not a published one."},"german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1904-07-18","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 90a/1904-07-18/p031","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/90a/1904-07-18/p031"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"length_check":{"de_words":262,"en_words":284,"ratio":1.08,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. The German original passage(s) above are the edition-invariant anchor — fetch them (lang='de') to verify wording before quoting across editions."},"paired_german":{"status":"paired","german":[{"locus":"GA 90a/1904-07-18/p031","passage_number":31,"text":"Das ist aber nur dem okkulten Forscher klar; ihm aber ist es ganz klar. Bekanntlich steht an der Stelle, wo die deutsche Übersetzung das ‹Wort› hat, der Ausdruck ‹Logos›. Im Anfang war der Logos. Was ist nun der Logos? Der Begriff des Logos, wie er hier gemeint ist, ist schwer zu verstehen. Er hat einen uralten Ursprung. Nun ist es zwar richtig, dass das Johannes-Evangelium, so wie es uns vorliegt, eine starke Nuance griechischer Schriftstellerei hat. Wer es aber genau prüft, wird auf der anderen Seite wieder sehen, dass der Schreiber des Johannes-Evangeliums wohl das eingehalten hat, was es ursprünglich war, nämlich ein von dem Jünger, den der Meister lieb hatte, geschriebenes Buch, ein Buch, welches darstellen sollte, dass dieser Jünger die Mutter Jesu zu sich genommen hat. Da muss man freilich die tiefere jüdische Lehre kennen. Diese tiefere jüdische Lehre finden Sie nicht bei Pharisäern und Sadduzäern. Sie finden sie eher noch bei den Sadduzäern. Sie finden sie aber bei einer großen Persönlichkeit in Alexandrien. Sie finden da aber auch die Lehre vom Logos. Dieses Wort ist aber auch nicht in Alexandrien entstanden. Dieses Wort können Sie zu allen Zeiten verfolgen. Ich möchte nur an ein paar Beispielen klarmachen, was der Mensch von damals mit dem Worte Logos für einen Begriff verbunden hat. So wie das Wort uns vorliegt, ist es nur ein griechisierter hebräischer Begriff. Weil Platon in seiner Lehre den Logos angenommen hat, hat man gesagt, dass er ein attisch redender Moses sei. Wir dürfen uns nicht wundern, dass wir die Logoslehre in einer etwas griechischen Gestalt vermittelt erhalten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":262,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/90a/1904-07-18/p031"}],"english":["GA 90a/1904-07-18/p031"],"method":"length+anchor_constrained","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":262,"en_words":284,"ratio":1.08,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6019,"original_word_count":5790,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Self-Knowledge and God-Knowledge I","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA090a/English/SOL2024/19040718p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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