{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 90b/1905-01-30/p008","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"However, one might not even realize the way in which research in this field comes about at all. I would like to speak here first of all about the case that has been discussed here, namely the case that constitutes a point of difference - not in the rest of esotericism, but in the younger current that has found expression in the Theosophical movement [as in Sinnett, Leadbeater and Blavatsky]. The theosophical movement is actually a very young movement compared to the occult movement. It was founded in 1875. But occultism is thousands of years old. In Europe, there were the same teachings as those brought by Theosophy; Theosophy also existed in Europe, only in the eighteenth century it receded somewhat because materialism did not allow these things to be spoken of. Materialism is something that has a scaring effect on the sacred science of occultism.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"IV. The Apocalypse and Theosophical Cosmology I","site_heading":null,"date":"1905-01-30","location":null,"word_count":146,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/90b/1905-01-30/p008","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Self-Knowledge and God-Knowledge II","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA090b/English/SOL2024/19050130p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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In Europa gab es dieselben Lehren, wie sie die Theosophie bringt; die Theosophie gab es in Europa auch, nur im achtzehnten Jahrhundert ist sie etwas zurückgetreten, weil der Materialismus nicht gestattete, dass man von diesen Dingen sprach. Der Materialismus ist etwas, was verscheuchend auf die heilige Wissenschaft des Okkultismus wirkt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":146,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/90b/1905-01-30/p008"}],"english":["GA 90b/1905-01-30/p008"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":146,"en_words":146,"ratio":1.0,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","anchors","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.02,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":4295,"original_word_count":4215,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Self-Knowledge and God-Knowledge II","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA090b/English/SOL2024/19050130p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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