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In ancient India, there was a high level of intuition and little external impact of civilization. Now, in our time, it is the other way around. This means that the position of occultism is also gradually changing. Much of what used to be kept secret has now become common knowledge. Many, many such insights and concepts were formerly kept within the occult brotherhoods, and a person could only gain access to these things if they had completely transformed their hearts. Today, the occultist no longer has this in their hands. Much of what used to be kept for later stages of training must now be recognized as having already been revealed by the culture of the outside world. The mystery initiate must take this into account. And so many truths that were taught in the occult schools had to be gradually brought out onto the physical plane.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"XVII. The Relationship of Occultism to the Theosophical Movement","site_heading":null,"date":"1905-10-22","location":null,"word_count":280,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/90b/1905-10-22/p022","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Self-Knowledge and God-Knowledge II","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA090b/English/SOL2024/19051022p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Außerdem tritt noch etwas anderes ein: Es musste, damit überhaupt ein solcher Fortschritt geschehen konnte, auf die Verstandeskraft eingewirkt werden. Viel mehr als früher wurde der Verstand angespannt, der dann durch die Kraft der inneren Konzentration sein Hinübergeführtwerden zum Erfassen des Übersinnlichen entwickeln kann. Es musste in der neueren Zeit also viel mehr in Begriffen gelehrt werden; es musste Gewicht gelegt werden auf die Verstandesausbildung und auf das abstrakte Vorstellungsvermögen. Vergleichen Sie einmal die Wandlungen in der Kultur von der alten indischen bis zu unserer Zeit. Im alten Indien haben Sie eine hohe Intuition und eine geringe äußere Auswirkung der Zivilisation. Jetzt, in unserer Zeit, ist es umgekehrt. Das bewirkt, dass auch die Stellung des Okkultismus allmählich eine ganz andere wird. Das bewirkt, dass vieles von dem, was früher geheim gehalten wurde, heute allgemeines Wissensgut geworden ist. Viele, viele solche Erkenntnisse und Begriffe waren früher innerhalb der okkulten Brüderschaften bewahrt worden, und es kam der Mensch an diese Dinge erst heran, wenn er sein ganzes Herz umgewandelt hatte. Heute hat der Okkultist dies nicht mehr in der Hand. Er muss vieles von dem, was man früher für spätere Stufen der Schulung aufbewahrt hatte, jetzt als schon durch die Kultur der Außenwelt offenbar geworden erkennen. Damit muss der Mysterieneingeweihte rechnen. 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