{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 90b/1905-10-22/p032","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"When the yogi now descends step by step into this etheric body, he penetrates into the times of the past, where his spiritual form of origin was influenced by these forces and beings and brought forth what lives in us today. When man has descended into life in this way, he can reach that point again during the descent. He descends from the head down into the lower regions, which were built up in the most ancient times, and then back again into his head. This is a description of the occult path of knowledge, albeit a scant description. More can be given in the occult schools.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"XVII. The Relationship of Occultism to the Theosophical Movement","site_heading":null,"date":"1905-10-22","location":null,"word_count":107,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/90b/1905-10-22/p032","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Self-Knowledge and God-Knowledge II","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA090b/English/SOL2024/19051022p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. The translator IS verified for this lecture: its own source names the translator (evidence: the lecture's page, rsarchive's lecture list, or the cover of the book it was published in), and that page's text was matched against this unit (see match_score and source_url). Cite the translator with confidence; attribute the publisher only as probable."},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","edition_basis":null,"is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/90b/1905-10-22/p032"},{"lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/90b/1905-10-22/p032","paragraph_aligned":true}],"record":{"record_type":"listeners_notes","scope":"volume","note":"Written from listeners' notes, summaries, or memory rather than a shorthand transcript. The wording is the note-taker's as much as Steiner's: weigh a single striking phrase here far more cautiously than the same phrase in a stenographic volume, and do not rest an argument on one word.","evidence":"Frühe Vortragsreihen und Einzelvorträge für Mitglieder in Berlin 1905–1906 nach ausführlichen und z.T. fragmentarischen Mitschriften.","evidence_translation":"Early lecture series and single lectures for members in Berlin 1905-1906, from detailed and in part fragmentary listeners' transcripts.","evidence_source":"The publisher's description of the volume, as mirrored on AnthroWiki (GA 90b); the description calls them \"Hörermitschriften\", and the served text carries the note-taker's gap marker \"[Lücke in der Mitschrift]\". The translation is the maintainer's, not a published one."},"other_renderings":{"loci":[{"locus":"GA 93/1905-10-22","ga":"93","lecture":"1905-10-22","kind":"reprint","relation":"the same text served under another volume (a reprint or another edition)"}],"note":"The same lecture is also served at the loci listed, each with how it relates to this one. They are ONE witness, not independent attestations: quote the rendering you fetched, and do not cite another as corroborating it. Wording differs between translations, so a quotation found in one need not occur in the other."},"paired_german":{"status":"paired","german":[{"locus":"GA 90b/1905-10-22/p032","passage_number":32,"text":"Wenn nun der Yogi stufenweise hinuntersteigt in diesen Ätherleib, dann dringt er hinein in die Zeiten der Vergangenheit, wo seine geistige Ursprungsform von diesen Kräften und Wesenheiten beeinflusst worden ist und dasjenige hervorgebracht hat, was heute in uns lebt. Wenn der Mensch so hinuntergestiegen ist in das Leben, dann kann er beim Hinabstieg jenen Punkt noch einmal erreichen. Er steigt vom Kopfe abwärts in die unteren Gebiete hinunter, die in den ältesten Zeiten aufgebaut worden sind, und dann wieder zurück in seinen Kopf. Das ist eine Beschreibung des okkulten Erkenntnisweges, wenn auch nur eine spärliche Beschreibung. Weiteres kann in den okkulten Schulen gegeben werden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":104,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/90b/1905-10-22/p032"}],"english":["GA 90b/1905-10-22/p032"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":104,"en_words":107,"ratio":1.03,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8023,"original_word_count":7678,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Self-Knowledge and God-Knowledge II","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA090b/English/SOL2024/19051022p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. The translator IS verified for this lecture: its own source names the translator (evidence: the lecture's page, rsarchive's lecture list, or the cover of the book it was published in), and that page's text was matched against this unit (see match_score and source_url). Cite the translator with confidence; attribute the publisher only as probable."},"entity_parity":{"status":"ok","checked_against":["GA 90b/1905-10-22/p032"],"missing_from_translation":[],"present_only_in_translation":[],"bead_confidence":"high","note":"Every load-bearing name in the German counterpart appears in this English passage. That is a check on NAMES only: a translation can keep every name and still reverse who acts on whom, change a number, or soften a claim. Read the German for anything you intend to rest an argument on."},"note":"quote_safe certifies the bytes of this text. This block is about the translation as a WITNESS: who made it, and whether it carries the same names as the original. See witness_completeness for how much of the original this witness holds."}}