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They denote the still existing connection of the initiate with the environment. Think of the ravens of Elijah. We also find ravens with Wotan. They mediate his communication with the environment. Thus, Barbarossa, the initiate, also had the ravens around him, which still kept him connected to the world.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":107,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/92/1905-12-03/p014","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Occult Truths of Old Myths and Legends","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA092/English/SOL2024/19051203p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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What we have seen and heard ourselves, that we proclaim. Paul is an apostle because he has truly seen the Risen One in spirit. It depends on the direct experience, which one acquires not through wisdom and logic, but directly.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":182,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/92/1905-12-03/p015","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Occult Truths of Old Myths and Legends","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA092/English/SOL2024/19051203p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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He struggles through everything that worldly knighthood can offer, with a naive, simple consciousness, in order to come to the secret of the Holy Grail.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":152,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/92/1905-12-03/p016","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Occult Truths of Old Myths and Legends","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA092/English/SOL2024/19051203p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Parzival becomes the initiate of the Holy Grail, who gets to know the one who is invulnerable where Siegfried was still vulnerable. In Parzival, the original idea of Christianity is expressed. It no longer knows the idea of reincarnation. One regards the one life between birth and death as the only one. The valuable thing is the one incarnation. One no longer looks up to Manas, Budhi, Atma. The Parzival initiation was only to come to the awareness of the connection with Christ, to consider the one incarnation in which man comes to knowledge through compassion and not through knowledge to compassion, as it happens through theosophy. Theosophy teaches us to recognize how we are one with all people. Through it, one knows that one is responsible for what our brother does. Theosophy leads through knowledge to compassion. But humanity had to go through a period of development for a while, where it was to come to knowledge through compassion. It had to descend into the depths of compassion, because one can also come to knowledge there. It had to be so, in order that people might get to know this earthly world in all its importance. Christianity was to educate humanity, so that the earthly might also be grasped in its significance. Therefore, man first had to be directed, steered downwards, in the moral sense, towards physical life. 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Sie bezeichnen die noch bestehende Verbindung des Eingeweihten mit der Umwelt. Man denke an die Raben des Elias. Auch bei Wotan finden wir die Raben. Sie vermitteln seine Kommunikation mit der Umgebung. So hatte auch Barbarossa, der Eingeweihte, die Raben um sich, die ihn noch mit der Welt in Zusammenhang hielten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":104,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/92/1905-12-03/p014"},{"locus":"GA 92/1905-12-03/p015","passage_number":15,"text":"Barbarossa hatte den heiligen Gral aus dem Orient geholt. Dieser heilige Gral war aufbewahrt worden auf dem Mons salvationis, dem Berg des Heils. Ihn umgeben jetzt die Nachfolger der Tafelrunde des Königs Artus, die zwölf Ritter, die zu der alten heidnischen Initiation die christliche Initiation hinzubekamen. Der Gral ist das Sinnbild der christlichen Initiation. Wer in die Geheimnisse des heiligen Grals eingeweiht werden wollte, der wurde christlicher Initiierter. Christlicher Initiierter wird man dadurch, daß man zuerst durch alle Zweifel hindurchgeht und dann den festen Halt bekommt in der Verbindung mit Christus selbst. Eins ist dazu notwendig: das unmittelbare Vertrauen zu der Gestalt Christi. Die ersten Jünger legten gerade darauf so besonderen Wert, daß Christus da war. Sie sagen: Wir wollen Zeugnis davon ablegen, daß wir mit Ihm zusammen waren. Wir haben unsere Hände in Seine Wunden gelegt. Was wir selbst geschen und gehört haben, das verkündigen wir. - Paulus ist deshalb Apostel, weil er im Geiste den Auferstandenen wahrhaftig erschaut hat. Auf die unmittelbare Erfahrung kommt es an, die man nicht durch Weisheit und Logik, sondern unmittelbar sich erwirbt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":179,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/92/1905-12-03/p015"},{"locus":"GA 92/1905-12-03/p016","passage_number":16,"text":"Klar ist es uns, was Parzival auf seinen Wanderungen erreichen soll. Die Mutter Parzivals heißt Herzeleide. Wenn man den Parzival des Wolfram von Eschenbach, der ein gründlich Eingeweihter war, tief liest, zwischen den Zeilen und Worten, so findet man, daß der Name Herzeleide, der Mutter Parzivals, ein Niederschlag des tragischen Zuges ist, der in dem deutschen Gemüte lag. Derjenige, der nicht den Parzival-Weg macht, der trägt im Herzen das Leid; er hat sich den Frieden zu erringen. Wolfram von Eschenbach hat es verstanden, die Sage in eine wunderschöne Form zu kleiden. Mit der einen Tatsache hat er ein tiefinneres Symbol gemeint - die weibliche Persönlichkeit bedeutet immer das Bewußtsein -: Herzeleide ist der Bewußstseinszustand, von dem Parzival ausgeht. Er hat zunächst ein tragisches Bewußtsein. Er ringt sich durch alles durch, was die weltliche Ritterschaft bieten kann, mit einem naiven, einfältigen Bewußtsein, um zu dem Geheimnis des heiligen Gral zu kommen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":150,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/92/1905-12-03/p016"},{"locus":"GA 92/1905-12-03/p017","passage_number":17,"text":"Dies müssen wir zusammenhalten mit der Barbarossa-Sage. Barbarossa ging nach Asien, um die Geheimnisse des heiligen Gral zu suchen, die Einweihung des Christentums. Aber er ist zugrundegegangen auf dem Wege zum heiligen Gral. Er muß «im Berge» warten, bis das Christentum den Anschluß finden kann an die frühere Einweihung. Barbarossa hat das Christentum geholt, aber die tiefere Einweihung des Christentums noch nicht errungen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":63,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/92/1905-12-03/p017"},{"locus":"GA 92/1905-12-03/p018","passage_number":18,"text":"Parzival ist der neue christliche Eingeweihte, das große Sinnbild, das die Siegfried-Einweihung ablöst. Siegfried hat die niedere Natur überwunden, den Lindwurm, die Schlange. Parzival wird der Eingeweihte des heiligen Gral, der den kennenlernt, der unverwundbar ist da, wo Siegfried noch verwundbar war. Im Parzival wird die ursprüngliche Idee des Christentums zum Ausdruck gebracht. Es kennt nicht mehr die Idee der Reinkarnation. Man betrachtet das eine Leben zwischen Geburt und Tod als das einzige. Das Wertvolle ist die eine Inkarnation. Man blickt nicht mehr hinauf nach Manas, Budhi, Atma. Die Parzival-Initiation ging nur dahin, zu dem Bewußtsein des Zusammenhanges mit Christus zu kommen, die eine Inkarnation zu betrachten, in der der Mensch durch Mitleid zum Wissen kommt und nicht durch Wissen zum Mitleid, wie es durch die Theosophie geschieht. Die Theosophie lehrt uns zu erkennen, wie wir eins mit allen Menschen sind. Durch sie weiß man, daß man selbst verantwortlich ist für das, was unser Bruder tut. Die Theosophie führt durch Wissen zum Mitleid. Aber die Menschheit mußte eine Zeitlang hindurchgehen durch eine Entwicklungsperiode, wo sie durch Mitleid zum Wissen kommen sollte. Sie mußte hinuntersteigen in die Tiefen des Mitleids, weil man auch da zum Wissen kommen kann. Das mußte so sein, damit die Menschen diese irdische Welt in ihrer ganzen Wichtigkeit kennenlernten. Das Christentum sollte die Menschheit erziehen, damit auch das Irdische in seiner Bedeutung erfaßt werde. 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