{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 92/1907-12-02/p002","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"It is not the aim of Spiritual Science merely to satisfy curiosity or a greed for knowledge but to be a spiritual impulse penetrating deeply into the culture of the present and immediate future. It will begin to dawn upon us that this is indeed the mission of Spiritual Science when we realise that its impulse has already made itself felt in the form either of clear or vague premonitions, in various domains of modern life. To-day we shall consider how an impulse akin to that of Spiritual Science lived in one of the greatest artists of our time. In speaking of *Richard Wagner*, I certainly do not mean to imply that he was fully conscious of this impulse. It is so meaningless when people say: ‘You tell us all kinds of things about Richard Wagner, but we could prove to you that he never thought of them in connection with himself.’ Such an objection is so patent that even those who think as we do could raise it. I am not suggesting for a moment that the impulse of which we shall speak lived in Richard Wagner in the form of definite ideas. Whether or not one is justified in speaking of it, is quite another matter. Detailed evidence in support of this point would lead us too far, but a comparison will show that our method of approach is fully justified. Does a botanist not think about a plant and try to discover the laws underlying its growth and life? Is not this the very thing that helps him to understand its nature? And will anyone deny him the right to speak about the plant from this aspect just because the plant itself is not conscious of these laws? There is no need to reiterate the generalisation that ‘an artist creates *unconsciously*.’ The point at issue is that the laws which help us to understand the achievements of an artist need not be consciously realised by him any more than the laws of growth are consciously realised by the plant. I say this at the outset in order to clear away the above-mentioned objection.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Richard Wagner and Mysticism","site_heading":null,"date":"1907-12-02","location":null,"word_count":356,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/92/1907-12-02/p002","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"Singles","book_title":"Richard Wagner and Mysticism","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA092/English/Singles/19071202p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. 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Wir werden ein Gefühl davon bekommen, daß Theosophie zu dergleichen berufen sein kann, wenn wir sehen, wie das, was durch sie pulsiert, im Grunde genommen nicht nur in ihr liegt, sondern sich als mehr oder weniger deutliche Ahnung in unserer Zeit schon kundgibt auf den verschiedensten Gebieten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":89,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/92/1907-12-02/p002"},{"locus":"GA 92/1907-12-02/p003","passage_number":3,"text":"Heute soll uns die Art und Weise beschäftigen, wie in einem der größten Künstler der neueren Zeit ein ähnliches Element lebte wie in dem, was wir Theosophie, Geisteswissenschaft, nennen. Nicht soll jemand glauben, daß alles das, was ich über diesen bedeutenden Künstler der neueren Zeit, über Richard Wagner, zu sagen haben werde, ihm etwa auch im deutlichen, verstandesmäßigen Bewußtsein gelebt habe. Billig wäre der Einwand, der etwa erhoben werden könnte: Du erzählst allerlei Dinge in Anknüpfung an Richard Wagner, aber wir können nachweisen, daß er das niemals über sich selbst gedacht hat. - Diesen Einwand kann jeder, der Richard Wagner betrachtet wie wir heute, leicht selbst machen. Keinesfalls soll behauptet werden, daß das, was gesagt werden soll, als ausgesprochene Ideen in Richard Wagner gelebt hat. Etwas anderes ist es, ob man ein Recht hat, dies auszusprechen. Es würde zu lange dauern, wollte ich Ihnen in einer ausführlichen Darlegung dieses Recht hier ableiten. Aber ein Vergleich, ein Bild kann uns dahin führen, die Berechtigung dieser Betrachtungen nachzuweisen. Denkt nicht der Botaniker über die Pflanze nach? Sucht er nicht die Gesetze, nach denen sie wächst und lebt? Versteht er nicht dadurch das Wesen der Pflanze oder sucht es zu verstehen? Und darf irgend jemand deshalb, weil die Pflanze nicht selbst diese Gesetze in ihrem Bewußtsein hat, dem Botaniker das Recht absprechen, über sie in dieser Weise zu reden? Wer dieses Bild tiefer verfolgt, wird sehen, wie sich das, was heute gesagt werden soll, ebenso zu dem Künstler verhält. Nicht als ob hier etwa die allgemeine Phrase wiederholt werden sollte, der Künstler schaffe unbewußt. Aber die Gesetze, durch die man bei einer gewissen Weltbetrachtung den Künstler versteht, die brauchen ebensowenig von dem Bewußtsein des Künstlers ausgesprochen zu sein wie ein Pflanzengesetz von der Pflanze. 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