{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 94/1906-02-19/p015","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"In olden times, in regions where man's body was still suited to these things, such an initiation took place as follows. The person had to go through a sort of sleep-state. What now takes several years in a modern European initiation—because the modern European can no longer go through the process I will describe—what today is achieved through long exercises of meditation and concentration, was achieved in a short time by some individuals, after the appropriate exercises of meditation and concentration. I particularly emphasise that anyone who really wishes to receive initiation must, in some form or other, face the two important experiences about to be described—though in a somewhat different way. He must go through a sort of sleep condition. To understand the nature of sleep, let us remind ourselves what takes place when one sleeps. One's higher bodies are then separated from one's lower bodies. Man consists of a physical body, which one can see with one's eyes. The second member is the etheric body which surrounds the physical body and which is much finer than the physical body. Currents and organs of wonderful variety and splendour are active in it. The etheric body contains the same organs as the physical body. It has a brain, heart, eyes etc. They represent the forces which formed the corresponding organs. It is as if one cooled water in a vessel until it becomes ice. In this way you should picture the arising of the physical organs through the densifying of the etheric organs. The etheric body extends only a little beyond the physical body.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture I","site_heading":"John's Gospel as Initiation into Higher Worlds","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Vortragsreihen","evidence_translation":"Summaries and notes of lectures and lecture cycles","evidence_source":"Rudolf Steiner Verlag Gesamtverzeichnis 2022, volume subtitle. The translation is the maintainer's, not a published one."},"paired_german":{"status":"paired","german":[{"locus":"GA 94/1906-02-19/p015","passage_number":15,"text":"In alten Zeiten, in denjenigen Gebieten, in denen der menschliche Körper noch dazu geeignet war, wurde eine solche Einweihung in der folgenden Weise bewerkstelligt. Der betreffende Mensch mußte eine Artvon Schlafzustand durchmachen. Alles, was sonst bei einer heutigen europäischen Einweihung, die jahrelang dauert, weil das alles nicht durchgemacht werden kann von einem Europäer, was jetzt erzählt wird, alles das, was bei einer europäischen Einweihung durch lange Meditations- und Konzentrationsübungen erreicht wird, das wurde früher, ebenfalls nach bestimmten vorhergehenden Meditations- und Konzentrationsübungen, aber in kurzer Zeit, von einigen erreicht. Ich bemerke ausdrücklich, daß für denjenigen, der wirklich die Einweihung empfangen will, doch einmal diese zwei wichtigen Erlebnisse in irgendeiner Form kommen müssen, wo er durchmacht das, was jetzt zu beschreiben ist, wenn auch auf etwas andere Weise. Durch eine Art von Schlafzustand muß der Mensch durchgehen. Um zu wissen, was eigentlich Schlaf seinem Wesen nach ist, halten wir uns nochmals vor die Seele, was vorgeht, wenn der Mensch schläft. Es sind dann seine höheren Leiber von den niederen Leibern abgetrennt. Der Mensch besteht ja zunächst aus dem physischen Leib, den Sie mit Augen sehen können. Das zweite Glied ist der sogenannte Ätherleib. Das ist dasjenige Wesensglied, das den physischen Körper umschließt, das viel feiner ist als der physische Leib, und in dem Strömungen und Organe von wunderbarer Mannigfaltigkeit und Prächtigkeit tätig sind. Im Ätherleib sind auch die gleichen Organe vorhanden wie im physischen Körper. Auch der Ätherleib hat Gehirn, Herz, Augen und so weiter. Sie stellen diejenigen Kräfte dar, welche die entsprechenden physischen Organe erst geschaffen haben. Das ist ungefähr so, wie wenn Wasser in einem Gefäß abgekühlt wird, so daß es zu Eis wird. So müssen Sie sich die Entstehung des physischen Organs durch die Verdichtung des Ätherischen vorstellen. Der Ätherleib ragt nur wenig über den physischen Leib hinaus.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":299,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/94/1906-02-19/p015"}],"english":["GA 94/1906-02-19/p015"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":299,"en_words":264,"ratio":0.88,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.96,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":4768,"original_word_count":4981,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"UNK1980","book_title":"The Gospel of St. John","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA094/English/UNK1980/19060219p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. 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